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Re: Destro tank

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 10:53 am
by Toldavf
Yeah chosen are parry bots. I'm hoping to get 50% go 2 handed and spread crippling strikes around as much as possible.

Re: Destro tank

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 10:56 am
by Azarael
If you're doingbitbright, you'll be taking damage all the time from guard. That toughness helps mitigate that damage in RVR.
No, it doesn't. Damage is mitigated by the guardee's toughness and armor, then the damage is split and the tank takes half of the damage as raw damage.

Re: Destro tank

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 11:38 am
by Tesq
that's why i took so much damage, was that way on official? or it's a way to make tanks less op ? anyway with better def one day it should be better.

Re: Destro tank

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 11:40 am
by Azarael
It was that way on official, yes.

You mitigate Guard damage through stacking Parry and Block (which is still bad, because attacks from Guard use your maximum possible block and parry chance, so Guard scales outrageously with character defense.)

Re: Destro tank

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 11:46 am
by Tesq
ye that is correct guard attacks are easier to def but i remember if i took damage i always taken lol damage, must be due to hardly concession and Oppression? total of 30% damage less that should had apply indeed.
Also guard damage ingored eff like rampage, so at least you could parry damage from guard.
Had to be that way to let 2h tank to no melt...

Re: Destro tank

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 12:01 pm
by Coryphaus
Duel wield....your not serious are you tesq?

Re: Destro tank

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 12:31 pm
by Tesq
Coryphaus wrote:Duel wield....your not serious are you tesq?


shield count as dual weild ......:P

every 2x 1h weapon count as dual weild so even charm/chalice/book

Re: Destro tank

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 12:45 pm
by Jaycub
Azarael wrote:It was that way on official, yes.

You mitigate Guard damage through stacking Parry and Block (which is still bad, because attacks from Guard use your maximum possible block and parry chance, so Guard scales outrageously with character defense.)
pls nerf guard

Re: Destro tank

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 1:39 pm
by Penril
Azarael wrote:
No, it doesn't. Damage is mitigated by the guardee's toughness and armor, then the damage is split and the tank takes half of the damage as raw damage.
THANK YOU.

You have no idea how many people think that a tank's toughness mitigates guard damage. I simply gave up trying to explain that guard damage can't be mitigated by the tank (other than parrying/blocking it).

Re: Destro tank

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 1:45 pm
by Coryphaus
Tesq wrote:
Coryphaus wrote:Duel wield....your not serious are you tesq?


shield count as dual weild ......:P

every 2x 1h weapon count as dual weild so even charm/chalice/book
Say whaaat!


Wait a minute that means kotbs have a base 10% parry with SnB and then coordination inc that to 25%?

If so that's bull