Return of Reckoning

drmordread wrote:Cry me some more desies. Facts are facts... the SH is OP compared to the SW, always has been. Just on the range alone the SH is deadly. So what if it is a horned squig? You are shooting from so far back there is no chance for your target to retaliate, just take your time, dot them up and relax.

SW racial tactics are nothing compared to the ability to put on a burst of speed that does not use up your AP. Stop, dot up target and run away again...rinse and repeat till target is dead. On the pay server I had to slot speed tallis in my boots just to keep up with SH's.
(I hope they are brought back because if not the SHvs mdps battles will be won by SH every time).

Fact is since the destro classes were created first a lot of thought and planning went into them. Order classes on the other hand had to be rushed because all of a sudden Mythic wanted an earlier release date.

So here we are, nerfing the least well planned class in the game .... while destro are not touched.

I'm sorry for calling you ignorant but very rarely can SH just DoT someone up and run away while still killing their target. AMs are better at that than SH and so are SWs. Give even the most armor hungry clothy with a guard and a heal and those ph@t deeps are worth nothing. Stop judging this game on a 1v1 basis.

Hell, here is a challenge. Level a WE to R32, duel a R22 SW and see who wins... I can be that R22 SW if you want.

@magter3001 You can say the same with a 32 WH and a lvl 22 SH (when he can kite).
I read often AMs are better... but you guys never mention the shammy. The only class that can kite a WB

gandresch wrote:@magter3001 You can say the same with a 32 WH and a lvl 22 SH (when he can kite).
I read often AMs are better... but you guys never mention the shammy. The only class that can kite a WB

The we vs a sw comparison I made was based of mord complaining about SH somehow being far superior to SWs. I agree that my R22 SH can also own a R32 WH. Mord is just going on a Silveresque rant about how Destro is OP as a whole.

drmordread, can you show us on this figurine where did the SH touch you?

From all the things I expected to encounter when I got back to RoR to be SW nerfs. I mean.. whoa, I'm kinda shocked.
Last I played they were the laughing stock of WAR, always to be put in the last healerless group in a warband along with WLs. They had positive upsides and show decent numbers in scens, but the negatives strongly outweigh in mid to high end RvR.
Now they are considered so OP that they clearly need a nerf, even that t4 is not in the game. Can anyone tell me what did I miss?

Zegota wrote:drmordread, can you show us on this figurine where did the SH touch you?

Spoiler:

https://youtu.be/gTo_NKvZJ6E?t=1m26s

Scrilian wrote:From all the things I expected to encounter when I got back to RoR to be SW nerfs. I mean.. whoa, I'm kinda shocked.
Last I played they were the laughing stock of WAR, always to be put in the last healerless group in a warband along with WLs. They had positive upsides and show decent numbers in scens, but the negatives strongly outweigh in mid to high end RvR.
Now they are considered so OP that they clearly need a nerf, even that t4 is not in the game. Can anyone tell me what did I miss?

Destro more organized side in the crying, with that developers prefer the dark side

Or in other words, they want easy games, no override a dangerous class as the shadow warrior

lastalien wrote:developers prefer the dark side

Yes yes, totally destro biased Devs indeed

I guess people really need and love such shittopics to just write ridiculous stuff from their hearts. Alone the OP shows how little understanding he has and HE is the one that wants cheap easy games instead. Especially cool if people dont even reason with any arguments given and rather compare to completely irrelevant (in terms of the discussion about the original skill) skills of their mirrors and then justify any overpowered abilities/specc possibilities for their own class with this form of argumentation.


@Shadowsting in general: NO class should be supposed to have a no CD, no drawback 50% healdebuff at anything lower than 9 points. IF this spell ever should go down to 5 points again, it either needs mediocre cooldown, its value nerfed or better both. But nothing like it is now, because its just obnoxious as hell. And dont even come with the 'drawback' of having an ailment. Pretty much EVERY group has a slayer spamming his shitty aoes all around and if not you still have your flaming arrow to still spread that sh*t on everyone if you like to. So this really is no argument

drmordread wrote:Cry me some more desies. Facts are facts... the SH is OP compared to the SW, always has been. Just on the range alone the SH is deadly. So what if it is a horned squig? You are shooting from so far back there is no chance for your target to retaliate, just take your time, dot them up and relax.

SW racial tactics are nothing compared to the ability to put on a burst of speed that does not use up your AP. Stop, dot up target and run away again...rinse and repeat till target is dead. On the pay server I had to slot speed tallis in my boots just to keep up with SH's.
(I hope they are brought back because if not the SHvs mdps battles will be won by SH every time).

Fact is since the destro classes were created first a lot of thought and planning went into them. Order classes on the other hand had to be rushed because all of a sudden Mythic wanted an earlier release date.

So here we are, nerfing the least well planned class in the game .... while destro are not touched.

Mordread just stop already you are making yourself look foolish.

lastalien wrote:
Destro more organized side in the crying, with that developers prefer the dark side

Or in other words, they want easy games, no override a dangerous class as the shadow warrior

If you want easy game you play order, and if u want an easy rpds class you play a sw, playing exclusively order you cant see this, i suggest playing destro and trying a few different classes on each side to get a better understanding for the game.

@morf please stop with those sweeping statements. Because it is simply not true. You are like silverWF..
I played both sides and once t3 was open it was much easier on destro side (sc, medals, exp, rr) and now it changed a bit and it is more equal (eurotime zone)