Return of Reckoning

Tobias26 wrote: Sun Jan 27, 2019 6:40 pm It's funny, people say that dps healers in the dps build was weak and needed buff. But when people say the same thing about tanks (now a no one tank can give out competitive dps) they say that the tank is a support class and he should not do dps)

horrigan wrote: Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:06 am add more abilities to the shaman. magic goblinów stronger than high magic. some joke at all

live4treasure wrote: Tue Jan 29, 2019 6:52 am

Tobias26 wrote: Sun Jan 27, 2019 6:40 pm It's funny, people say that dps healers in the dps build was weak and needed buff. But when people say the same thing about tanks (now a no one tank can give out competitive dps) they say that the tank is a support class and he should not do dps)

I'm surprised no one adressed this specific post, since the misconception here is a bit important to define.

First of all, yes dps tanks are not equal to pure dps classes, even though at current the difference is really not that big for most of them. Comes down to lower str scaling values, if I'm not mistaken.

However, that's not an oversight or a Dev conspiracy against the classes. That'a a conscious design choice. The difference between dps healers and dps tanks is that a dps healer can not fill a healer role, while a dps tank in fact fills a tank role in a party.

So in essence a dps tank is still a tank, while a dps healer is a dps. Tho classes like BO and SM can really make that difference seem thin.

anarchypark wrote: Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:16 am

live4treasure wrote: Tue Jan 29, 2019 6:52 am

Tobias26 wrote: Sun Jan 27, 2019 6:40 pm It's funny, people say that dps healers in the dps build was weak and needed buff. But when people say the same thing about tanks (now a no one tank can give out competitive dps) they say that the tank is a support class and he should not do dps)

I'm surprised no one adressed this specific post, since the misconception here is a bit important to define.

First of all, yes dps tanks are not equal to pure dps classes, even though at current the difference is really not that big for most of them. Comes down to lower str scaling values, if I'm not mistaken.

However, that's not an oversight or a Dev conspiracy against the classes. That'a a conscious design choice. The difference between dps healers and dps tanks is that a dps healer can not fill a healer role, while a dps tank in fact fills a tank role in a party.

So in essence a dps tank is still a tank, while a dps healer is a dps. Tho classes like BO and SM can really make that difference seem thin.

no, dps tank don't fill tank role.
it fills half dps and half tank.
same as dps healer.

difference is dps tank fill it's half tank role by standing front with guard. ( easy )
while dps healer have to use skills for half healer role. ( hard )
still, their effectiveness are only half if they pulled out half role correctly.
dps tank melt when he guard focused target.
dps healer can't save focused target.
and dps healers just gave up half healer role cuz it's hard.

dps tank looks like working when there are real tanks doing their job.
at best, they absorb fluff dmgs.
check when 1 side have real tanks and opposite have only dps tanks.
melee lines crumble, specially in large scale.

it's zero sum.
you go dps, you lose other half.
we have to give disapprove to both dps tank and dps heal equally.
but if u are good player, you're approved.

Dammy095 wrote: Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:08 am

horrigan wrote: Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:06 am add more abilities to the shaman. magic goblinów stronger than high magic. some joke at all

you are wrong, this is exactly same abilites which AM had for a long time but it was disabled on shaman for some reason, now its enabled again, so both classes have same spell