Return of Reckoning

Disclaimer: Best effort and I normally have at least one or two errors in data. If it is wrong it is wrong!

Disclaimer2: Gives a hint nothing more there are so much more coming into play before you have damage numbers in your combat log

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DDs
Class Avg Dmg (Base @40) Min Dmg (Base @40) Max Dmg (Base @40)
Archmage 328,33 248 412
Black Orc 176,57 75 450
Blackguard 170,40 75 375
Bright Wizard 312,82 75 750
Choppa 153,15 60 337
Chosen 129,80 75 187
Disciple of Khaine 160,43 75 337
Engineer 321,80 75 674
Ironbreaker 190,28 75 690
Knight of the Blazing Sun 123,85 75 187
Magus 389,75 225 750
Marauder 184,14 112 375
Runepriest 294,20 225 348
Shadow Warrior 324,65 75 900
Shaman 352,13 248 448
Slayer 142,25 75 337
Sorcerer 353,44 75 750
Squig Herder 239,04 75 750
Swordmaster 144,56 75 262
Warrior Priest 161,23 75 337
White Lion 147,95 75 375
Witch Elf 223,69 75 450
Witch Hunter 339,07 75 699
Zealot 294,20 225 348
Grand Total 225,67 60 900


DOTs
Class Avg Dmg (Base @40) Min Dmg (Base @40) Max Dmg (Base @40) Average OverTime Efficiency Avg Dmg / Avg OT
Archmage 840,75 651 1256 14,3 59,00
Blackguard 517,50 250 785 10,0 51,75
Bright Wizard 500,57 248 860 10,3 48,67
Choppa 417,67 147 750 7,3 56,95
Chosen 252,00 252 252 9,0 28,00
Disciple of Khaine 348,00 100 744 16,3 21,31
Engineer 772,29 448 1442 15,9 48,70
Ironbreaker 395,77 99 840 5,8 68,60
Knight of the Blazing Sun 330,00 198 672 6,8 48,89
Magus 779,00 430 1460 14,7 52,94
Marauder 424,50 198 651 15,0 28,30
Runepriest 923,60 450 1575 11,6 79,62
Shadow Warrior 560,25 303 840 10,5 53,36
Shaman 1030,50 805 1256 19,5 52,85
Slayer 286,00 147 360 5,7 50,47
Sorcerer 541,00 248 805 10,8 50,09
Squig Herder 461,60 198 710 11,4 40,49
Swordmaster 150,00 150 150 5,0 30,00
Warrior Priest 297,50 100 495 9,5 31,32
White Lion 327,00 246 405 12,0 27,25
Witch Elf 553,50 246 861 15,0 36,90
Witch Hunter 1153,91 246 1980 9,5 122,05
Zealot 548,33 450 655 9,3 58,75
Grand Total 609,13 99 1980 10,8 56,61

This is surprising:
DoK doesn't do more damage than WP.
Sorc DOES do more damage than BW.
Zealot and RP are equal.
Swordmaster needs a buff (ok, that's not surprising, but less dmg than a WP?)

Etc.

So, what am I looking at here exactly? Am I reading it wrong?

You are seeing average ability base damages @40.

Like all average numbers they are confusing and sometimes misleading. Some abilities have multiple hits and most classes don't do the same number off attacks (per second). WL coordinated strike is a good example of this. So those numbers aren't DPS.

Instead they give a hint of the class average ability base damage disregarding stat contribution, hit type, weapon speed, mechanics, crits and how many hits the class do. Also note "Ability" also imply AA (Auto Attacks) isn't included.

They are just fun numbers.

Warning I forgot to filter out secondary hits (trigger condition hits) which usually are weaker. Stuff like "25% on hit out to do additional X damage" are included.

eisenhans wrote:This is surprising:
DoK doesn't do more damage than WP.

Dual wield and COVs play a role but I would be forced to say they are reasonable close (ability damage)

eisenhans wrote: Sorc DOES do more damage than BW.

If I remember correctly BWs have more secondary hits which complicates it a bit

eisenhans wrote: Zealot and RP are equal.

No no RPs are much cooler

eisenhans wrote: Swordmaster needs a buff (ok, that's not surprising, but less dmg than a WP?)

Stats come into play here and obviously damage type (physical, corporeal, spiritual, elemental)

Very interesting, thanks for this one.

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What am I seeing here? Is this current T1 damage potential? Seems about right for that. The later tier change this alot though as you see the apex dps slayer/sorc pull well ahead.

You can see why the Shaman are so op in t1 by this. Also surprised at the WH damage but their dots are alot shorter and require melee range.

Unfortunately the game was balanced to lvl40 and the lower tiers were always pretty unbalanced. Hopefully as the classes get a bit more finished they start to up the level and we can reach a more balanced level. Also when they added the new renown ranks and 80+ weapons messed up that originally balanced for endgame.

Telen wrote:What am I seeing here? Is this current T1 damage potential? Seems about right for that. The later tier change this alot though as you see the apex dps slayer/sorc pull well ahead.

You can see why the Shaman are so op in t1 by this. Also surprised at the WH damage but their dots are alot shorter and require melee range.

Unfortunately the game was balanced to lvl40 and the lower tiers were always pretty unbalanced. Hopefully as the classes get a bit more finished they start to up the level and we can reach a more balanced level. Also when they added the new renown ranks and 80+ weapons messed up that originally balanced for endgame.

As i understand it, these are only base values at rank 40 and not representative how a class is performing in general.