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Order enter keep unflagged
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:45 pm
by Parallell86
In three known zones order can enter their keep before being flagged for RVR due to PVE zone border being too close to the keep.
Etaine, Badlands and Saphery. It becomes completely impossible for destro to put up a blockade and stop order from filling up the keep, as a strategic factor of sieges. The siege is practically over before it starts. As this is not actually possible for destro the situation is completely in order favour. I suggest reverting the random keeps and make them static again. The keeps were static on live for a good reason I must presume.
The other option is instant RVR flagged when entering the zone. This has been on going long enough. And despite the ror team having other projects I really think its about time this was dealt with.
Re: Order enter keep unflagged
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:37 pm
by btbw2009
cry more, gankers
Re: Order enter keep unflagged
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:46 pm
by GRUSZKA
So point is that Destro can do this only in Caledor and Saphery? Or do we somehow count southern keep in Kadrin Valley too?
Re: Order enter keep unflagged
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:48 pm
by knick
GRUSZKA wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:46 pm
So point is that Destro can do this only in Caledor and Saphery? Or do we somehow count southern keep in Kadrin Valley too?
no no its just order doing so. there for its no problem to just blame order and create a biased post about. 10/10
Re: Order enter keep unflagged
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:58 pm
by Kloaner
I understand the point but why not just kill them inside?
Re: Order enter keep unflagged
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 11:50 pm
by b00n
who cares if order or destro can do it... it's just wrong that it is possible anyway. So would be nice if there could be some system of prevention for this.
1) You can't enter postern if you are not RvR Flagged and this flagging is younge than 1minute
2) Insta flag RvR if ppl enter the RvR zone, no cd.
Re: Order enter keep unflagged
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 6:44 am
by Gladiolix
b00n wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 11:50 pm
who cares if order or destro can do it... it's just wrong that it is possible anyway. So would be nice if there could be some system of prevention for this.
1) You can't enter postern if you are not RvR Flagged and this flagging is younge than 1minute
2) Insta flag RvR if ppl enter the RvR zone, no cd.
+1
I never understood anyways why you can be in RvR without a flag and why there is a timer to it. Just make people instantly flagged for RvR once they enter lake.
Re: Order enter keep unflagged
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 9:19 am
by Tom
Agreed, it makes no sense to have RVR flagging delayed by even a second. The moment you are in the RVR zone, you should be flagged.
While on the topic of moving in and out of zones, pls also remove the spawn in PVE camps when dying in RVR or using WAR reports and let us spawn in the RVR camp.
Actually, the portals allowing you to teleport to BOs could also do with being removed. I do not quite remember the context of the situation when they were introduced if it was some event and we all had to run on foot, or if it was when tiers were merged and lowbies had to still use the slower t2 mount or what it was.. but, at the time of the portals being intoduced, for the reason I have forgotten, lol, the portals did make sense. Now that one can use 50% mount directly at level 16 - not so much... The portals have turned into another tool for avoiding the rvr roaming periils.
Finally, the random keep thing - I too wish it would go away. The keeps were placed in ways that made more sense also to the campaign, and for example seeing Order defending the Badlands keep is just odd.
There is too much of a snowflake whiff to all the above 'features' and at least for me they don't sit well with the game.
Re: Order enter keep unflagged
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 12:18 pm
by Dajciekrwi
Tom wrote: Fri Dec 17, 2021 9:19 am
Agreed, it makes no sense to have RVR flagging delayed by even a second. The moment you are in the RVR zone, you should be flagged.
While on the topic of moving in and out of zones, pls also remove the spawn in PVE camps when dying in RVR or using WAR reports and let us spawn in the RVR camp.
Actually, the portals allowing you to teleport to BOs could also do with being removed. I do not quite remember the context of the situation when they were introduced if it was some event and we all had to run on foot, or if it was when tiers were merged and lowbies had to still use the slower t2 mount or what it was.. but, at the time of the portals being intoduced, for the reason I have forgotten, lol, the portals did make sense. Now that one can use 50% mount directly at level 16 - not so much... The portals have turned into another tool for avoiding the rvr roaming periils.
Finally, the random keep thing - I too wish it would go away. The keeps were placed in ways that made more sense also to the campaign, and for example seeing Order defending the Badlands keep is just odd.
There is too much of a snowflake whiff to all the above 'features' and at least for me they don't sit well with the game.
Im compltly agreed with this. Its good and reasonable proposition. Beer goin to author:)
Re: Order enter keep unflagged
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 12:21 pm
by warlover
Tom wrote: Fri Dec 17, 2021 9:19 am
Agreed, it makes no sense to have RVR flagging delayed by even a second. The moment you are in the RVR zone, you should be flagged.
While on the topic of moving in and out of zones, pls also remove the spawn in PVE camps when dying in RVR or using WAR reports and let us spawn in the RVR camp.
Actually, the portals allowing you to teleport to BOs could also do with being removed. I do not quite remember the context of the situation when they were introduced if it was some event and we all had to run on foot, or if it was when tiers were merged and lowbies had to still use the slower t2 mount or what it was.. but, at the time of the portals being intoduced, for the reason I have forgotten, lol, the portals did make sense. Now that one can use 50% mount directly at level 16 - not so much... The portals have turned into another tool for avoiding the rvr roaming periils.
Finally, the random keep thing - I too wish it would go away. The keeps were placed in ways that made more sense also to the campaign, and for example seeing Order defending the Badlands keep is just odd.
There is too much of a snowflake whiff to all the above 'features' and at least for me they don't sit well with the game.
I think i Agree with all of that
