Return of Reckoning

Why shaman can't cleanse AM dots, while Am can cleanse shaman?? Yet Shaman has racial tactics nerfed. Can some one please shed light on this subject so I can understand better?? thanks

havartii wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 11:21 pm Why shaman can't cleanse AM dots, while Am can cleanse shaman?? Yet Shaman has racial tactics nerfed. Can some one please shed light on this subject so I can understand better?? thanks

Original Mythic design, 3 type of effects, each healer cleanses 2. Chart made by Bambi.

so, hex is applied by engie, bw and am - classes with nasty dots, and shaman can't cleanse them? seems to be unbalanced.

malmar wrote: Fri Apr 01, 2022 7:22 am so, hex is applied by engie, bw and am - classes with nasty dots, and shaman can't cleanse them? seems to be unbalanced.

there is DOK and Zaelot aswell

Everyone will always feel THERE class mistreated/Nerfed and all other classes TO Strong/Buffed, same in every MMO and will never ever change

This game was originally designed around the three faction pairings. As High Elves are the bane of the green skins in Warhammer lore they receive certain small advantages in the game. AM cleanse is one example.

MJ wanted a three faction game. High Elves would only fight green skins and vice versa until one faction locked the pairing by taking the fort. That faction could then, "invade," the other pairings.

This idea was ****-canned by GW, for better or worse.

Not sure how you'd balance it, as the mirror classes do not even apply the same debuff types so mirroring the healer cleanses would imbalance something else.

Easiest solution would be to change shaman dots from ailments to curses.

Then move choppa debuffs from curses to hexes giving destro 4/4/4 of each type to match order 4/4/4.

What about removing damage dots from shaman and am arsenal?

havartii wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 11:21 pm Why shaman can't cleanse AM dots, while Am can cleanse shaman?? Yet Shaman has racial tactics nerfed. Can some one please shed light on this subject so I can understand better?? thanks

1.4.?

2/10

Fey wrote: Fri Apr 01, 2022 7:46 am This game was originally designed around the three faction pairings. As High Elves are the bane of the green skins in Warhammer lore they receive certain small advantages in the game. AM cleanse is one example.

MJ wanted a three faction game. High Elves would only fight green skins and vice versa until one faction locked the pairing by taking the fort. That faction could then, "invade," the other pairings.

This idea was ****-canned by GW, for better or worse.

That doesnt sound right from lore perspective. Greenskins and HE had minimal contact with one little Grom invasion into Ulthuan.

shoelessHN wrote: Fri Apr 01, 2022 8:07 am Easiest solution would be to change shaman dots from ailments to curses.

Easiest solution would be to remove cleanse restrictions and allow every healer to cleanse any type of effect, perhaps with certain additional bonuses, general ones or if they cleanse specific type of effect. Argument could be easily made it would simplify game too much, but it also would made different cleanses closer in terms of quality. Main complaint of the topic is about AM vs Sham, but dont forget poor WP who doesnt cleanse WE/SH/Mara/Sham, 4 out of 5 destro heal inc heal debuffs, while cleaning only Chop.