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Auto Attack Formulas

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 6:37 pm
by leftayparxoun
Have you ever wondered how Auto Attacks function in this game? I recently became curious again about this exact matter and started looking for answers.
The formulas that I could find in publicly available resources left me unsatisfied due to both the lack of evidence behind them and due their vagueness regarding Off-Hand Auto Attacks. So I decided to investigate on my own. I'm putting my entire methodology as well as my findings up here on the forums so that other people can access it directly without the effort of going through similar testing.

Here is analysis including the formulas discovered and the complete methodology followed to get to those results:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zY8 ... sp=sharing

Here are the formulas that describe how AAs work currently:
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Here is a brief glossary for the above formulas:
  • AA = Auto Attack
  • dmg = damage
  • dps = damage per second
  • wSpeed = weapon speed
  • wDps = weapon dps
  • DB = damage bonus
  • AAspeed = Auto Attack speed (every how many seconds you perform an AA)
  • Haste% = how much faster you perform auto attacks (base value is 0% but if you have some you can see it via the ]getstats command on yourself)
  • MH = main hand
  • OH = off hand
For a more detailed explanation of those properties check out the Glossary section in the analysis itself.

Re: Auto Attack Formulas

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:43 pm
by gersy
nice post

Re: Auto Attack Formulas

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:17 pm
by Karl
I salute you! Great write up! Been curious myself :)

Re: Auto Attack Formulas

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 5:52 am
by Rydiak
Great work! These findings match my own.

Re: Auto Attack Formulas

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 7:37 am
by nocturnalguest
To be honest i see no reasons to hide such things along with rest of game combat mechanics. So much time and efforts are put by community into figuring basic things.

Thanks for doing this work. Appreciated

Re: Auto Attack Formulas

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 7:54 am
by Rydiak
nocturnalguest wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2024 7:37 am To be honest i see no reasons to hide such things along with rest of game combat mechanics. So much time and efforts are put by community into figuring basic things.

Thanks for doing this work. Appreciated
I wouldn't call any of it hidden, so much as complex. Be sure to check out the damage calculator I have linked in my signature. It has been available for quite some time now, and is a good way to test values out of game.

Re: Auto Attack Formulas

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 8:12 am
by nocturnalguest
Ive seen your calculator, used it back in day when i was gathering scalers and testing out abilities performance along with alot of other stuff. Gathered up alot of things back then, even combat code of RoR which was publicly available since 2014 on github until i shared it on forums here during some avoidance debates.

My point is however very different. All those formulas and other crucial mechanic info should be publicly available on wiki instead of people spending 10 hours+ to figure such basic things as how exactly off hand proc damage is calculated. Is what i mean.

Yeah, one could argue such things werent shared nor in WoW (was figured by community thru testing), nor AoR (same stuff, community figured all out themselves). That was like ages ago already, this is a private server and fun project, cant aply same logic as commercial product, nah? I cant grasp why team just dont share it openly, proper data as it is in the code (i dont mean just copy-paste code pieces, but exact formulas).

Commonly available on discords dalen ability thingy is not linked anywhere on wiki or here on website. Why?

Would be much easier for "alpha-testers" to see proper confirmed info to fill bugreports at the very least.

Re: Auto Attack Formulas

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 5:47 pm
by Uchoo
Looks accurate at a glance, good job.

Re: Auto Attack Formulas

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2024 5:40 am
by Florian90210
OP should get a life and devs find time to post docs on wiki. :D

Re: Auto Attack Formulas

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2024 7:57 pm
by Emissary
I would say the wiki is always looking for volunteers. I hear so much of why something is not on the wiki and I am like volunteers needed ... As far as data not being released, that is up to Dalen or Max.