Return of Reckoning

For deff witch elf what four tactics are they running with?
Got killed by one and it felt super owerpowered compare to other specs for solo at least.

It does well, but a def WL in the +armour sov destroys a def WE easily.

Kiss of Doom, Sacrifices Rewarded, Frenzied Mayhem and Brute Force personally. Swift Blades can be good in parry setup. 50% AA speed also good.

For renown TB and Reflexes maxed are pretty much mandatory. Ultimately you want to get crit a bit to proc tactic shield so TB + the -3% crit reduction pocket give you a solid 43% crit dmg reduction.

Setup can vary heavily, I like 54.5% parry (57% with Vict buff up), 2.9k armour, 260 regen and 913 strength. Feels like it covers all the bases. You can get it to 3k armour if you're willing to lose a little more strength.

Frenzied mayhem for witchbrew?

yes

nat3s wrote: Sun Jan 25, 2026 12:31 pm It does well, but a def WL in the +armour sov destroys a def WE easily.

The ''def WL''' i've seen in the game duel a Def WE has easily been deafeated by the WE, however that was before patches and ive not played in some time.

However to me personally the def sov set is inferior to the normal one, 700+ armor means nothing (WE does corporeal) and you get a little extra toughness which again does almost nothing unless you stack it to 700-800.

Farrul wrote: Mon Jan 26, 2026 9:44 am

nat3s wrote: Sun Jan 25, 2026 12:31 pm It does well, but a def WL in the +armour sov destroys a def WE easily.

The ''def WL''' i've seen in the game duel a Def WE has easily been deafeated by the WE, however that was before patches and ive not played in some time.

However to me personally the def sov set is inferior to the normal one, 700+ armor means nothing (WE does corporeal) and you get a little extra toughness which again does almost nothing unless you stack it to 700-800.

Here is the recent duel session I'm aware of: https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com/kill/59737223 (scroll down to Player Feud section).

Worth noting that people are so attracted to +crit from offensive sov that it completely clouds their judgement. Totally understand why you would think WL def sov isn't good (you are wrong though). Crit as a stat is less impactful than str/int (pre cap) and mag power/melee power (post cap). But people see "yummy big crit %" and are drawn to it like flies to a lamp.

Essentially it's why the def meta evolved as those that understand stat weightings better, realised this where the masses are just sucked into gearing as a glass cannon.

Take WoW, pvp values Versatility (-dmg) and in the past Resilience (-crit) for a reason. People just never clued onto it in the same way in Warhammer Online.

But keep going glass cannon, its totally viable, just not 1v1 duel viable, which is fine as that's such a niche part of the game anyway!!

nat3s wrote: Mon Jan 26, 2026 12:29 pmWorth noting that people are so attracted to +crit from offensive sov that it completely clouds their judgement. Totally understand why you would think WL def sov isn't good (you are wrong though). Crit as a stat is less impactful than str/int (pre cap) and mag power/melee power (post cap). But people see "yummy big crit %" and are drawn to it like flies to a lamp.

I have never typed that '' Totally understand why you would think WL def sov isn't good ''. Those are your words,

I've questioned the logic behind using the ''def WL'' set as an argument for killing Def WE, when Def WE ignores the armor bonus on 90% of her attacks and the toughness bonus is not going to make a practical difference unless you stack it( let's be humble +600-700).

WL will likely do much better playing ''def wl'' using the normal SoV set, why? Because the bonuses are simply better. It's not only the crit, it has 10% more armor penetration( 6 % set , 3% helm, WS difference).

Fyi, on my WL i don't use Def set ( when i was active a year back) but i kill all def WE anyways on full glass spec( regen pot). I could use regen and def wound proc weapon if i wanted some extra sustain.

So what will the extra armor be good for? SH have 80% armor pen, Chosen/Magus/WE/Shaman ignores it(strongest 1vs1 destro classes). I was not aware WL could stack toughness to 700- 800 where it actually starts becoming good and makes a difference.

P.S. i always forget Zealot which now apparently is a thing, also ignores it( sorry Stink)