Arguetlam wrote: ↑Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:44 am
nat3s wrote: ↑Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:12 am
The outliers are currently WL, aSW, slayer and melee DoK. You don't achieve balance by looking at classes in silo. Think about it, aSW is way more powerful than mSH, it doesn't make sense to levy a hefty 25% nerf on the latter without touching the former.
Could I have your reasoning behind the Ddok comment ? they have little to no mobilities. They sure have a good dps and utilities for a party, but not more than a lot of other classes. So why is it on this list ?
bichka wrote: ↑Sun Aug 18, 2019 4:35 pm
Arguetlam wrote: ↑Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:20 pm
bichka wrote: ↑Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:32 am
class with such CC and spamable healdebuff shouldn't do same damage. Also mSH at least have pet to kill to remove armor buff from "stance" - kind of risk, while SW is not.
So what should be nerf on ddok is his dps because he can applie heal debuff on crit proc ? Should we nerf the WE dps because she has double heal debuff kd mez ? Plz. The ddok can and Will be shutdown hard by any range dps. He has next to no mobilitie and rely on other party member for any cc. He synergies well with other but hé his farm from being an overperforming class.
SW is basicaly ranged class with kite abilities. And have almost tank armor in melee stance. You are comparing paper WH/WE with SW? wow
Dok is melee without antikite abilities except focus mind. Any dps which hits resists instead of armor easily shut down dps dok. Granade specced Engi, BW, AM/ whatever. In scs most dps doks is dead in seconds. In premades doesn't really matter what dps is carried.
Sorry I did not realise that was an other convo not answering my first quote.
But where do you see me speaking about SW ?? I'm speaking only about DDok that was, i don't know why, brought to this discussion about balance and put on the same lvl as WL aSW Slayer in terme of inbalance by nat3s.
My confusion come from the fact you are speaking about "spamable heal debuff" and i though it was refering to ddok.