Shaman Discussion, more

[Bozzax]

My personal Shammy wish list

Destroy confidence
Change 3 > 2 and/or maybe not damage for all removed enchantments (except first one)

Sticky Feetz
Change debuff to all resistances (or at least 2) which still wouldn't be as funky as the AM ini debuff that affect all attacks

[arthur2k]

you need to make concessions for Shaman/AMs/Zealots where you dont have to as much for RPs/WPs/DoKs.

Why are RPs better than zealots?

They are more survivable; they can cleanse more relevant debuffs (Marauders, SHs, BWs, WEs, Choppas) While the Zealot cannot cleanse their mirrors. SWs, WLs, Slayers, and WHs have extremely potent 'ailements' making the Zealot Dok combo much more stressful than the WP+RP synergy.
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Time to buff or nurf!

[Scrilian]

They are more survivable; they can cleanse more relevant debuffs (Marauders, SHs, BWs, WEs, Choppas) While the Zealot cannot cleanse their mirrors. SWs, WLs, Slayers, and WHs have extremely potent 'ailements' making the Zealot Dok combo much more stressful than the WP+RP synergy.

WP can't aoe-cleanse WE/Mara/BOrc debuffs of destro melee cleave, while the DoK can aoe-cleanse Slayer/WH based order melee cleaves.

[Sulorie]

You are not aware that aoe cleanse does nothing against melee trains, while only rp/zeal have the option to remove multiple debuffs in a short time frame.

[Bozzax]

KW?

[Sulorie]

KW?

Kilowatt? Context?

In the rare case you meant cleansing wind, you are wrong, because renown skills have to be left out in a balancing discussion.
With the same logic you could say AM/SHAM have no issues with Sorc/BW, because everyone can use CW.

[Penril]

He meant Khaine's Withdrawal. I think...

[Sulorie]

He meant Khaine's Withdrawal. I think...

How fast you can repeat an attack and debuff lineup, when it is cleansed by moral cleanse on a 1min cooldown?

I never thought that people seriously come with such an argument. Then a single DoK can deal with 2 BW by using Khain's Withdrawl, ok?

[Penril]

He meant Khaine's Withdrawal. I think...

How fast you can repeat an attack and debuff lineup, when it is cleansed by moral cleanse on a 1min cooldown?

I never thought that people seriously come with such an argument. Then a single DoK can deal with 2 BW by using Khain's Withdrawl, ok?

Don't look at me... not my argument

[DirkDaring]

Would be nice to get getting smarter back , like it was at launch where it buffed your intelligence