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X realming and why people do it...

Post#1 » Fri Sep 18, 2015 1:56 pm

Anyone take a wild guess at the biggest reason people X realm ? You would think it because people want the option to play 100% of the game and not just half ( 1 realm) .. But you would be wrong... It all comes down to the can't beat em , join em mentality.. And the worse part is that the dev's create this mentality..

Now wait a sec ... Let me explain.. Devs wanna make a great and fun and long lasting game for everyone to enjoy for countless hours right ? Right.. Great and again TY so very much for doing so.. The problem is well in our case anyway since T2 is the current " end game " they make it retardly hard or time consuming to get current end game stuff.

I think the calculation for a full set of dev the other day was 285 medals. or 57 keep takes .. Now with lockouts ( lol ) you could do a max of 4 keeps per hour or 20 medals per hour . Thats about 15 hours to get the full set.. Now player mentality kicks in .. Well if we are 50% destro and 50% order fight for the same keeps and the same 285 medals it could take countless hours to get a full set if both side are fighting back and forth .. But if we just go play the dominating side we can do it in 15 hours .. hmmm .. then we swap to our other toons and do the same thing...

I think it has alot to do with treating T2 like its end game. I say this cause if anyone thinks a full dev set is gonna be worth more then wiping your ass in T4 then your crazy..

Call me insane but I think the best thing to do would be to use resources and dev time to get the game flushed out to actual end game ( T4 ) and then worry about balancing numbers in rvr. Now anyone can have T2 toons on both order and destro when end game is lvl 26.. It will be a lot less common issue at lvl 40.

That being said there are a few ways to help players decide that they want to run with one toon and on one side. MAKE LEVELING MORE DIFFICULT. Don't get me wrong . I hate PvE. But I am also a hell of lot less likely to roll multiple sides if it takes me a month to lvl 1 toon to 40..

We will never do away with X-realming 100% but the more difficult you make it to do it effectively the less folks who will do it...

One mans opinion.. As always Thank you for this server and for the time and effort you are all putting into it for all of us players...

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Azuzu
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Post#2 » Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:02 pm

papakoko wrote:Anyone take a wild guess at the biggest reason people X realm ? You would think it because people want the option to play 100% of the game and not just half ( 1 realm) .. But you would be wrong... It all comes down to the can't beat em , join em mentality.. And the worse part is that the dev's create this mentality..

Now wait a sec ... Let me explain.. Devs wanna make a great and fun and long lasting game for everyone to enjoy for countless hours right ? Right.. Great and again TY so very much for doing so.. The problem is well in our case anyway since T2 is the current " end game " they make it retardly hard or time consuming to get current end game stuff.

I think the calculation for a full set of dev the other day was 285 medals. or 57 keep takes .. Now with lockouts ( lol ) you could do a max of 4 keeps per hour or 20 medals per hour . Thats about 15 hours to get the full set.. Now player mentality kicks in .. Well if we are 50% destro and 50% order fight for the same keeps and the same 285 medals it could take countless hours to get a full set if both side are fighting back and forth .. But if we just go play the dominating side we can do it in 15 hours .. hmmm .. then we swap to our other toons and do the same thing...

I think it has alot to do with treating T2 like its end game. I say this cause if anyone thinks a full dev set is gonna be worth more then wiping your ass in T4 then your crazy..

Call me insane but I think the best thing to do would be to use resources and dev time to get the game flushed out to actual end game ( T4 ) and then worry about balancing numbers in rvr. Now anyone can have T2 toons on both order and destro when end game is lvl 26.. It will be a lot less common issue at lvl 40.

That being said there are a few ways to help players decide that they want to run with one toon and on one side. MAKE LEVELING MORE DIFFICULT. Don't get me wrong . I hate PvE. But I am also a hell of lot less likely to roll multiple sides if it takes me a month to lvl 1 toon to 40..

We will never do away with X-realming 100% but the more difficult you make it to do it effectively the less folks who will do it...

One mans opinion.. As always Thank you for this server and for the time and effort you are all putting into it for all of us players...

There isn't one answer for why people do something, people X-Realm for many different reasons.

I X-realm, there are a few reasons for it and none of them have to do with "join em".

1: I like the Destro classes more, Sorc and Mara were always my favorite, so I made both on Destro.

2: I always wanted to try a Slayer on live but never got the chance, so I made a Slayer.

3: I have friends who play Order (not as often as I like) so when they play, I play Order.

4: The majority of my friends play Destro, so I play Destro.

5: I like being the underdog faction. When one side is zerging and dominating, I like playng the underdog. (Which works in the opposite of what your saying.....I hate zerging. )



papakoko wrote: MAKE LEVELING MORE DIFFICULT.
Just no, dear god no :-P
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Post#3 » Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:07 pm

you are literally so dam wrong from the get go

their are 24 dam fun classes in this game, i will not limit my experience to just 12 of them
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Post#4 » Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:18 pm

Peeps doing X realm are just exploiting the system for gear free that all.The issue last night prove it . End.

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Post#5 » Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:22 pm

papakoko wrote:Now wait a sec ... Let me explain.. Devs wanna make a great and fun and long lasting game for everyone to enjoy for countless hours right ? Right.. Great and again TY so very much for doing so.. The problem is well in our case anyway since T2 is the current " end game " they make it retardly hard or time consuming to get current end game stuff.

papakoko wrote:That being said there are a few ways to help players decide that they want to run with one toon and on one side. MAKE LEVELING MORE DIFFICULT.
You contradict yourself in only one post. Congratulations, that is a new record.

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Post#6 » Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:25 pm

As long as RoR is free AND it doesn't have a system to tag IPs, Xrealmers will exist.
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Post#7 » Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:32 pm

Joan wrote:As long as RoR is free AND it doesn't have a system to tag IPs, Xrealmers will exist.
IP tagging wouldn't work, unless your going to restrict people from having two accounts from the same IP. Which means, no couples, roommates, siblings, parents/kids, anyone who lives in the same house will be able to play together.
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Post#8 » Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:33 pm

How about this: The more characters you have from the same faction at a certain level , the more bonuses you get.

Marvel Heroes has a similar system, where you get like +5% Xp account bonus for every character you have at level 60, up to a max of +200% i think. In RoR it could be something like this:

- 3 characters at max level (26 atm) on same faction: +50% Inf/renown/XP/gold for any character of that faction you have on that account.
- 6 characters at higher RR (30 now, 80 in T4): +100%
- 9 characters at max RR: +150%
- 12 characters at max RR: +200%

These bonuses would only apply to the faction of the characters you have at that level. So if i have 6 order characters at level 26, i get a +50% bonus on everything applied to all my ORDER characters in that account, but not to destro.

Would this be incentive enough to stay on one faction? Will suck for x-realmers like me who like to fight the zerg. But if AAO is implemented it would compensate for it.
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Post#9 » Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:35 pm

Azuzu wrote:
Joan wrote:As long as RoR is free AND it doesn't have a system to tag IPs, Xrealmers will exist.
IP tagging wouldn't work, unless your going to restrict people from having two accounts from the same IP. Which means, no couples, roommates, siblings, parents/kids, anyone who lives in the same house will be able to play together.
Yeah. You're right.
****, finding a good enough system is proving to be really hard.
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Re: X realming and why people do it...

Post#10 » Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:37 pm

Penril wrote:How about this: The more characters you have from the same faction at a certain level , the more bonuses you get.

Marvel Heroes has a similar system, where you get like +5% Xp account bonus for every character you have at level 60, up to a max of +200% i think. In RoR it could be something like this:

- 3 characters at max level (26 atm) on same faction: +50% Inf/renown/XP/gold for any character of that faction you have on that account.
- 6 characters at max level: +100%
- 9 characters at max level: +150%
- 12 characters at max level: +200%

These bonuses would only apply to the faction of the characters you have at that level. So if i have 6 order characters at level 26, i get a +50% bonus on everything applied to all my ORDER characters in that account, but not to destro.

Would this be incentive enough to stay on one faction? Will suck for x-realmers like me who like to fight the zerg. But if AAO is implemented it would compensate for it.
Good idea, one of the best I've heard, but people would just power level characters to get their accounts to have huge bonuses. especially if it effects gold.

I just started playing here and I already have 3 max level character. It takes about a day to hit 26.

If you wanted to be a min/max'er about it, you would have a Destro account with 12 characters and an Order account with 12.
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