penagos22 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 29, 2021 12:28 am
GrishnakBlagtoof wrote: ↑Thu Oct 28, 2021 10:58 pm
penagos22 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 28, 2021 1:48 pm
A year or more ago you had the order crying here, which caused the current situation, people are more focused on coming to the forums to cry than playing the game, and when the crying doesn't get anywhere they go away, I know that from that I myself was in that situation. The healthiest thing again is to start playing and for the devs to cut off the feedback and the hope that we have to change the game in the forum and not in the game itself.
But you said a few times that when Order was weakest and Destruction was stronger, "Order just played and never complained".....now you're admitting that Order did and that's what got us here now.
wargrimnir wrote: ↑Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:34 pm
I don't know about the other few devs that work on balance, but the only thing I mildly pay attention to in these threads are whether people are openly breaking the rules and misdirecting their balance frustration into abuse towards the people responsible for it.
If you want to see any wild rants turned into balance changes, you know where to post them. Everything else is just forum PvP and no one wins.
It's definitely a touchy situation. But I think maybe it's more like venting than anything else? At least that's what I get out of it. Can't speak for anyone else.
I am not admitting anything, from the beginning I said that the one who complained the most was me, the one who cried the most was me and with those cries we carry ror in the situation that this is. Hey, don't attack me, you can see that you are frustrated and, since I was in your situation, I tell you that this is not the way. read the thread from the beginning.
I'm not attacking you in any way and I have read the whole thread several times to make sure I'm participating positively and expressing my point clearly. You want us to suck it up and log in and play even if it's simply unfun for some people.....not ME, of course....I'm hopelessly addicted and so happy to be back in Warhammer, so I always have something to do in-game.
But like I said, I'm trying to understand where you're coming from, I just can't. You have said over and over in this thread that you and Order players just sucked it up and played and dealt with whatever imbalance you claim there was. I've been saying that's untrue, because if Order didn't complain and push about an imbalance, changes wouldn't have been made and we wouldn't be having this discussion in the first place, right?
It's so much so, that you have also said that you'd be fine if it went
back to those days if it meant people would just log in and play more.
Right now, in-game on Destruction, there is a very real perceived imbalance. Whether it's true or not, people FEEL it is. People talk numbers in abilities, they talk specs career by career in comparison of each other, there's a large portion of the population that simply feels it's pointless to try. Either people feel that there's a fundamental power disparity between the careers in favour of Order, or there's 2 Warbands or more of Order to maybe 1 or even just ½ of a Destruction Warband and we get rolled and even with high AAO....tonight's AAO hit 400% and nobody felt it was much worth it. Right now, as I type this, only 213 people are in-game. When I came in little over a month ago, it was consistently 600-800 and I was running Warbands and while we still had AAO, it wasn't 400%.
At the very least, the balance really needs to be looked at deeper, and a discussion should happen. There's a reason Order outnumbers Destruction 2:1 or even 3:1, there's a reason people are being so vocal about power disparity. And it's beyond the occasional "I lost in a 1v1, nerf them" throwaway post. We see post after post about a power disparity and imbalance between the career mirrors. If it's true, I believe it'll be dealt with. If it's not, then we'll have our answers. Either way, the community and game will benefit greatly. It's a win/win!
Like I have said over and over, I love this game to no end. I don't want it to go. It would be crushing. I want it to be healthy, competitive, growing and remain the best Siege and PvP Battle game in MMORPG History. We are all here because we LOVE Warhammer and RoR is OUR game! We have to work together as a community to get this sorted so we can get back to killing each other every night.