I really don't have the time for this, but as is my nature when personally targeted I will respond.
Dastradis wrote: ↑Sun May 24, 2020 12:32 pmThis post right here rubs me all the wrong ways....
Then perhaps you should have read it first. And then followed that up by applying, you know, some actual thought to your response.
Again, for the record, this is the original post I responded to:
Wam wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 1:41 pmWhy do you try paint guilds are the big bad guys? when its the stubborn/ignorance/laziness of pugs who want to be competitive without putting in any work... if destro pugs can do it, why not orders...
What I objected to in that post, as I tried to explain to the last person to react as you did, was the name calling. Simply because someone may desire a dedicated PUG city instance does not render them lazy, or ignorant, or stubborn, or automatically deficient in any other manner. It simply means different players are driven by varied motivators, and demeaning them simply because they don't play the game in the same manner as someone else is incredibly petty.
As for your Straw-man arguments:
Dastradis wrote: ↑Sun May 24, 2020 12:32 pmBecause the people putting in the effort to organize themselves in videogames cannot possibly have families, jobs and/or a plethora of other obligations in life, too.
I never said this. The context of my comment was simple, that different players are driven by varied motivators. Me, I have no desire to get out of bed at 5AM just to log on and run a city. That truth does not render me lazy, or ignorant, or stubborn. It just means I figure there will be another city along some other time.
Dastradis wrote: ↑Sun May 24, 2020 12:32 pmMore importantly even the people putting in the effort to organize themselves in videogames only do so for the singleminded purpose of ruining your play, amirite?
Ok, this is just moronic. If you are going to attack someone you obviously believe is inferior to you, then I reissue my suggestion to actually apply some thought to that effort.
Dastradis wrote: ↑Sun May 24, 2020 12:32 pmConsidering they are out for your blood it's absolutely justifiably to change the game to suit you and your fellow pugs whilst alienating that terrible, terrible playerbase of premades and average joes with social skills.
I never said any of this crap either. Seriously, I would appreciate you explaining how you justify going all apoplectic over comments never made. That would be interesting reading.
My position on the issue of this thread I have articulated, and it amounts to nothing more than I support the idea of a pug city instance. If you go back and actually read my post you will not find where I called anyone any names or said any of the other crap you are accusing me of while stating that support.
Dastradis wrote: ↑Sun May 24, 2020 12:32 pmI don't quite know about the meta of this game...
Obviously there is much you don't know about this game. But hey, just continue to fabricate narratives as you go along and you will be fine, I am sure.
Dastradis wrote: ↑Sun May 24, 2020 12:32 pm...but in other games the "no invites for **** classes"-issue is usually resolved by being friends with other people and/or being simply good enough players to warrant the invite in spite of the class. Who knew the power of friendship even gets you pass meta circlejerks...
Whether you realize it or not you are making the same argument as Wam. All issues associated with particular players being excluded from any city warband are attributable to only one cause, those players are personally deficient in some manner. Ergo:
Dastradis wrote: ↑Sun May 24, 2020 12:32 pmIt'll be interesting to see how this mess is being handled here, the game actually looks fun, and how similar "conflicts" have been handled in the past. I don't feel like investing time into another game that might just end up another a hotjoin RNG-fest like ESO...
these kind of games always, without exception, devolve into a shitflinging contest between people that can hardly operate keyboards demanding the game to be changed even further to accommodate their "zero effort"-schtick.
Great minds think alike, I guess.
Blame It On My ADD Baby...