[WL] Theorycrafting: AOE Spec PVE Rotation

[Gulimborsti]

Hey folks!

So im very bad at theorycrafting and having browsed through the forums, I couldn't find a proper up-to-date answer to this...due to low RR, let's say im runnin this aoe build:

https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/c ... ,2929,9202


(1) What would be the best Single-Target/Boss rotation for this one?
(2) What would be the best AOE rotation for this one?
(3) When running the Hack n Slash tactic, do we then prioritize Slashing Blade over Sundering Chop's armir ignore?
(4) Is there a better PVE spec for low RR? (note: Due to low RR, I skipped Cull the Weak, not sure if appropriate)

As always, grateful for your answers and thanks in advance

[normanis]

flanking dont work with loner anymore
u still need assist main assit if u are in grp. about st rotation u whant add snare/armordebuff/lions fury /cordinate strike sundering chopp ( depends on target use on healers thin the herd) builds also depends from grp if u have already healdebuffer let him deal with it. like wh/slayer/ib or another wl (if speced)
for solo/grp use slower weapon
https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/c ... 98,521,523
and for aoe
https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/c ... 2,521,9204
p.s there are better white lions so they will explain more better.

[Gulimborsti]

flanking dont work with loner anymore
u still need assist main assit if u are in grp. about st rotation u whant add snare/armordebuff/lions fury /cordinate strike sundering chopp ( depends on target use on healers thin the herd) builds also depends from grp if u have already healdebuffer let him deal with it. like wh/slayer/ib or another wl (if speced)
for solo/grp use slower weapon
https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/c ... 98,521,523
and for aoe
https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/c ... 2,521,9204
p.s there are better white lions so they will explain more better.

Thank you for your answer!

Does the above also apply to PVE? (minus the snare etc., ofc)

[normanis]

flanking dont work with loner anymore
u still need assist main assit if u are in grp. about st rotation u whant add snare/armordebuff/lions fury /cordinate strike sundering chopp ( depends on target use on healers thin the herd) builds also depends from grp if u have already healdebuffer let him deal with it. like wh/slayer/ib or another wl (if speced)
for solo/grp use slower weapon
https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/c ... 98,521,523
and for aoe
https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/c ... 2,521,9204
p.s there are better white lions so they will explain more better.

Thank you for your answer!

Does the above also apply to PVE? (minus the snare etc., ofc)

y just dont use pet go loner. pet anyway take 1/3 from heals so its still die. and to recast pet u need wait

[teoklas]

Full Single Target

you can kill a dps or a healer in 3 seconds with this build:

https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/c ... 98,521,523

https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/r ... ;0;0;0;0;0

use trained to hunt

Gear:
heal - warlord (2% melee crit)
shoulder - sov dps (2% melee crit)
cloak- warlord (10 % auto attack speed)
chest - warlord (2% parry)
gloves - sov dps (10% auto attack speed)
belt - triumphant (melee power)
boots - triumphant (10% auto attack haste)

24 weapon skill talismans, +100 strenght pot

jewel- genesis remnant
jewel- genesis aspect
jewel-triumphant ring with critical chance or melee power
jewel - warlord

weapon - IMPORTAT (bloodlord axe from bastion stairs. theres chraceaxe with 3.4 weapon speed and theres another axe with 3.2, ppick the 3.2 one)

with 4 warlord set bonus + gear pieces bonus + pack hunting tactic = 95% auto attack speed increase wich means youll do an auto attack every 1.2 seconds, auto attacks dealing usually more damage than your skills, around 1200 if crits or so

rotation :
armor debuff (force oportunity)
pet buff (leonine frenzy) + knockdown (brutal pounce) at the same time , quickly go behind your target
pack assault
coordinate strike - anything should be dead by now except a tank
lions fury
sundering chop

[teoklas]

FULL AOE

https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/c ... ,9204,9202

use trained to threaten for extra crit and always get to the side or back of the enemy


gear
head- sov dps
shoulder - triumphant
cloak -sov dps
chest- sov dps
gloves-sov dps
belt-triumphant
boots-triumphant

jewels- genesis remnant and aspect, sentinel or triumphant, sov dps

[teoklas]

a thing about thin the herd : is bad
its an outgoing heal debuff wich means its only good to debuff healers, doesnt affect anybody else

pick leonine frenzy and practice the art of fetching and enemy - knock him down mid air- armor debuff when he lands - coordinated strike in his back

you will not need heal debuff because the burst damage is usually so insane its not even needed, of course the fortress weapon can help a lot, it has a proc that heal debuffs any enemy incoming healing, so you might want to use that just as the cherry on top. and despite having 25% chance of proc, you have so many attacks (for pack assault, coordinated strike your pet skills) that will probably end up proccing in almost every fight you get

also, use shattering blow and fey illusion against witch elves when they surprise gank you if you still have low gear

for pve single target damage is a good idea to use your 2 dots, blindside and shattering blow, along with the rest of the skills, just because the dmage really ads up

buy a couple hundred ap pots, you will need them, they are cheap, about 4 gold the stack

trained to threaten is not good for a single target build because the lion's damage skills are pretty bad. trained to kill is a solid option, trained to hunt with auto attack speed tactic even better

you can do a disgusting hp regen full tanky build with furiouss mending, baited trap, grimminshimer chest, and hp regen items, im not sure how good it is 1v1 but seems pretty good

despite the strenght cap beign 1050, is not a bad idea to go beyond it, granted you'll need 2 points to get 1 more point of strenght but theres a noticeable difference between having 1050 and 1070 strenght. melee power does that but without the downside, but is not easy to get from items. but i'd do that once i've reached about 45% armor penetration with my gear, otherwise is going to be hard to kill marauders, 2h tanks, squigs in meatball form and so on


this was more of a general tips for wl

[Gulimborsti]

Browsing through your answers right now but already a big Thank You! for taking the time elaborating there!

[Belanoite]

My build for AOE loner:
https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/c ... 9,9210,521

AOE or sc:
(Better using Fortress Chraceaxe)
https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/c ... ,9210,9201
or you can use the same build for aoe loner and put revenge instead loner.

For single target:
https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/c ... 0,9199,523