Return of Reckoning

In my experience, a 2 - 2 - 2 premade will almost always beat out any non trinity group. Unless there is a large disparity in either teamwork or gear. 2011 year - my premade wins 100% scenarios, even against 2 premades. We had: 2 mele doks, 2 mdd choosens, 1 mdd BG, 1 heal dok. That 3rd dok was sin...

Relying on two melee doks in any map other than Eternal Citadel to provide sufficient heals vs a competent order premade = suicide (particularly versus ranged comps, good luck getting off any heals whatsoever). 1 dedicated healer is essential if you wish to fight equal opposition. Example of melee ...

Its hard to add any Melee WP/DoK to a 6man group without sacrificing something else. I.E. If you have a melee healer in your party its harder to run 2 MDPS as all three will be hungry for guard. It also puts alot of stress on the ranged healer, if their melee train breaks off and dives healer and s...

I've ran a few dual DPS DoK 6 mans - but our setup was: DPS DOK - AP Drain DPS DOK - Heal Debuff (very much so need to be in bis gear to compete at all) 2h BO - aoe snare/armor debuf SNB Chosen - I believe he had BL armor debuff not entirely sure Heal Dok Zealot (arguably the best combo for 2 heale...

SC screenshots mean nothing. And I wasn't saying that melee healers were useless. I was asking... specifically, which setup would they benefit the most from. mdd dok can be used in any melee oriented group outside 2+2+2 standart. Those are: premade groups (for example 2 choosens, 2 mdd doks, black ...

So what role does a melee healer fulfill? What setup benefits from having one? They can't take a full healer slot imho; you gotta have 2 full backline healers. Maybe a 1-3-2 with 2 strong rDPS classes and a guarded Dok helping with extra heals, focusing the group on survivability instead of lol-u-r...

Ah, you said mdd dok, which I took as melee direct damage dok, not melee healer dok. I suppose it might be different then. Melee DoK is still a healer. MDPS DoK and melee healer DoK is the same thing. There is not any and should not be DoKs, who make damage and not heal their party members. There a...

Melee DoKs who heal party don't use AA haste tactic, so there is not as much damage generating by AA as you may think. Also WP make more damage with his AA because of dual handed weapon. You see when DoK make autoatack there is 2 lesser hits, each of which is weakens by defensive stats individually....

GodlessCrom wrote:Weaponskill at least helps with your auto attacks, which are a significant portion of dps for all melee classes.

Not for mdd DoK.

Collateral wrote:It's definitely not an amazing dps set. And like peter said, good luck with getting genesis. Bl is relatively easy to get, and it can work as some sort of filler until you get genesis.

Or you cane take 20+20 ring and 30+20 cloak and have more usefull strength and wounds bonuses.