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darhoob
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Solo

Post#1 » Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:38 am

Good afternoon, friends! I present to your attention small videos of solo gank in dd spec. The video has a lot of fans =) Enjoy watching.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cssbn84L8qM

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Nauht
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Re: Solo

Post#2 » Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:40 am

Nice. I'm trying to level up a WE myself and let me tell you it's pretty rough. WBs don't really want you, my gear is up to date as a rr49 and yet I still can't kill efficiently. I know its a skill issue on my part but can you give some tips? Like what's your rotation? I already can see that you seem to have the standard OYK/PA build but do you use AW, slice?

At my relatively low level I feel pretty damn weak. Not sure if I should stack toughness, wounds or armor as I see the class as a very fragile glass cannon. So at this stage I can't kill quickly nor last. If I were a WB leader, I'd also kick me.

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yoluigi
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Re: Solo

Post#3 » Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:24 pm

I like how the only class where your still at 100% health after defeating them in 10 seconds is WP 2h at 1:55 men they need to buff that class soo bad. While the AM is way tankier than the WP even thought your 100% on the guy and it's a range class. Cool fights with the WH! keep it up fun to have solo videos showcase!

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Sinisterror
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Re: Solo

Post#4 » Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:25 pm

yoluigi wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:24 pm I like how the only class where your still at 100% health after defeating them in 10 seconds is WP 2h at 1:55 men they need to buff that class soo bad. While the AM is way tankier than the WP even thought your 100% on the guy and it's a range class. Cool fights with the WH! keep it up fun to have solo videos showcase!
It hurts to watch how ineffective 2h Wp is. Guilty Soul needs to Heal you for dmg done (max 4-5 at the same time) and Sigmar's Shield should dmg your target for same amounts you get healed from it. Lose 10rf from heal and gain 5rf from the dmg proc. Sigmar's Radiance also back and Judgement using 15ap returning 15rf and the class works again. If worked like this, then IB duo power would be very srs potential. IB Buffs 360 corp resis+50% AA haste to Oathfriend and that should stack with Wp 50% AA haste tactic. Also IB's 25% AA dmg and Wp 20% AA dmg from GS. Very Nice

Nice Video btw!
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Zxul
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Re: Solo

Post#5 » Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:52 pm

Nauht wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:40 am Nice. I'm trying to level up a WE myself and let me tell you it's pretty rough. WBs don't really want you, my gear is up to date as a rr49 and yet I still can't kill efficiently. I know its a skill issue on my part but can you give some tips? Like what's your rotation? I already can see that you seem to have the standard OYK/PA build but do you use AW, slice?

At my relatively low level I feel pretty damn weak. Not sure if I should stack toughness, wounds or armor as I see the class as a very fragile glass cannon. So at this stage I can't kill quickly nor last. If I were a WB leader, I'd also kick me.
Build used in the video is something like this this- notice on bars the Witchbrew bound to L key, and Elixir of the Cauldron bound to Z. With a defensive build- max toughness + regen, which is why the WE can take so much dmg.

Witchbrew build doesn't really has much of a rotation- you hit Witchbrew once per 10 sec, and use AW or whatever you need in the rest of the time.

Another build option is RA/OYK- see explanation here. If you want to go for defensive option, stack toughness and regen, and replace Whirling Blades with absorb tactic.
yoluigi wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:24 pm I like how the only class where your still at 100% health after defeating them in 10 seconds is WP 2h at 1:55 men they need to buff that class soo bad. While the AM is way tankier than the WP even thought your 100% on the guy and it's a range class. Cool fights with the WH! keep it up fun to have solo videos showcase!
Main problem of wp/dok is that they were pigeon holed into a very specific builds- snb which only works in sc 6man, cookie cutter 2h/dw with exact same tactics, and book/chalice heal.

And 2h/dw if you want to do any dmg only has lifetaps as defense- which were heavily nerfed as 2h/dw, compared to live. And even funnier, lifetap healing can actually be debuffed just fine- by having high mitigation/parry/etc, or by just kiting- if you don't do dmg, you don't heal. Which is what you see in the video- vs a defensive build wp dies in 10 sec unable to do anything.

All the other live builds, like dok proc build, were nerfed into oblivion, and then kicked in a bit more, just to make sure they stay dead.
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darhoob
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Re: Solo

Post#6 » Fri Jan 10, 2025 6:25 pm

Nauht wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:40 am Nice. I'm trying to level up a WE myself and let me tell you it's pretty rough. WBs don't really want you, my gear is up to date as a rr49 and yet I still can't kill efficiently. I know its a skill issue on my part but can you give some tips? Like what's your rotation? I already can see that you seem to have the standard OYK/PA build but do you use AW, slice?

At my relatively low level I feel pretty damn weak. Not sure if I should stack toughness, wounds or armor as I see the class as a very fragile glass cannon. So at this stage I can't kill quickly nor last. If I were a WB leader, I'd also kick me.
Hi, my opinion is We are a solo class. To run in a warband, you need to have a party played. With a shield tank, 2 healers, 2 rd that will assist your target. By rotation, there are 2 branches to witch brew, you take black lotus blade, elixir of shadows, tactics for survival on kiss of death and sacrifices rewarded. You learn to play on 4-5 sticks. You're maxing out strength, Parry, and toughness. This is my build.

Nauht
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Re: Solo

Post#7 » Sat Jan 11, 2025 3:09 am

Thanks for all the tips. I see my first mistake was stacking str then wounds instead of toughness.

Gonna rework my gear, tactics and rotation.

Thanks all. I had just about given up on the WE.

EastVan
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Re: Solo

Post#8 » Sun Jan 12, 2025 7:40 am

Quick couple of questions for def we. So no need for FS? Also do we need strength for witchbrew spec? I'm running like 330 strength, over 500 tough. Yeah it takes me awhile to kill 1 v 1 especially any class over rr75. I have seen you around running solo too. Thanks for the help the other day at hardwater falls in KV 😉 and great video btw!

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Zxul
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Re: Solo

Post#9 » Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:39 am

EastVan wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 7:40 am Quick couple of questions for def we. So no need for FS? Also do we need strength for witchbrew spec? I'm running like 330 strength, over 500 tough. Yeah it takes me awhile to kill 1 v 1 especially any class over rr75. I have seen you around running solo too. Thanks for the help the other day at hardwater falls in KV 😉 and great video btw!
Witchbrew was changed some time ago to scale with str (and as a result to be mitigated by toughness), so yep you need str.
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Panzer80
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Re: Solo

Post#10 » Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:43 pm

yoluigi wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:24 pm I like how the only class where your still at 100% health after defeating them in 10 seconds is WP 2h at 1:55 men they need to buff that class soo bad. While the AM is way tankier than the WP even thought your 100% on the guy and it's a range class. Cool fights with the WH! keep it up fun to have solo videos showcase!
The guy wasn't even fighting until like 30% hp.
[SM] 84, [WL] 83, [SW] 60+, [WH] 84, [AM] 70+, [Kotbs] 70+
[BO] 82, [Mara] 82, [Sham] 60+ [SH] 50+ [WE] 60+

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