RoR Stink Zealot 2

[Sanctific]

Personally I prefer magus for the dps zeal duo but dps shaman is also really good. With shaman its quite easy going since either one of you can just heal the other but what I like with magus is the amount of cc and dmg they bring

Anything that involves a (good) Magus in roaming is toxic, class is just broken . On my Lion back in the days i would swallow shamans for dinner, zeal i still consider pray( no offence ).

Magus i avoided a head on charge with the regen/disk/kite/silly class. Since then, devs buffed them further ( this game solo balance is doomed).

P.S. Good vid.

None taken,
I still think WL is one of the (if not) the worst match ups for zealot. I think its gotten a bit easier due to the zeal buffs and maybe the fact that most wls seem to run some sort of regen build these days.. but a good full dmg wl can definitely just pop zealots in the opener.

True, WLs' burst combo is insane. On my zeal i sit at 9.1k HP unbuffed, -2.5% CTBC (yeah, negative), yet if dont counter WLs burst with defensives (get ninja jumped or simply have those on CDs) - in 8 out 10 cases i either dont survive the KD or, if I do, I'm at ~1-1.5k HP after KD, which makes recovery highly improbable (not impossible, still potentially realistic, just very low chances of success).

However, the worst matchup for a zeal, IMO, is an AM who always keeps his cleanse on CD and knows that a zeal will inevitably lose the AP race & has Ishas Encouragement slotted. Simply not a chance against those AMs. Luckily IE AMs are relatively rare, Rioz is the only one who runs IE on the constant basis AFAIK, those who dont (yet still cleanse) - well, a tough fight but winnable. Those who dont cleanse at all tho and think they will out-DPS a zeal - free frag lol ;p

[Stinksuit]

Anything that involves a (good) Magus in roaming is toxic, class is just broken . On my Lion back in the days i would swallow shamans for dinner, zeal i still consider pray( no offence ).

Magus i avoided a head on charge with the regen/disk/kite/silly class. Since then, devs buffed them further ( this game solo balance is doomed).

P.S. Good vid.

None taken,
I still think WL is one of the (if not) the worst match ups for zealot. I think its gotten a bit easier due to the zeal buffs and maybe the fact that most wls seem to run some sort of regen build these days.. but a good full dmg wl can definitely just pop zealots in the opener.

True, WLs' burst combo is insane. On my zeal i sit at 9.1k HP unbuffed, -2.5% CTBC (yeah, negative), yet if dont counter WLs burst with defensives (get ninja jumped or simply have those on CDs) - in 8 out 10 cases i either dont survive the KD or, if I do, I'm at ~1-1.5k HP after KD, which makes recovery highly improbable (not impossible, still potentially realistic, just very low chances of success).

However, the worst matchup for a zeal, IMO, is an AM who always keeps his cleanse on CD and knows that a zeal will inevitably lose the AP race & has Ishas Encouragement slotted. Simply not a chance against those AMs. Luckily IE AMs are relatively rare, Rioz is the only one who runs IE on the constant basis AFAIK, those who dont (yet still cleanse) - well, a tough fight but winnable. Those who dont cleanse at all tho and think they will out-DPS a zeal - free frag lol ;p

I would rank dps AM also very high probably shared 1st spot for the "worst matchups" for zeal. In my experiences AM is in a similar spot as a WL but other way around, while I find full dmg WL harder than the regen ones. When it comes to AM I think more tankier spec as you mentioned Rioz for example gives more trouble for zeal than full dmg dps AM.

Ofcourse things are situational in almost all cases but those are my experiences, I havent fought all the dps am or lions out there so maybe its incorrect just my own experiences

[Farrul]

Anything that involves a (good) Magus in roaming is toxic, class is just broken . On my Lion back in the days i would swallow shamans for dinner, zeal i still consider pray( no offence ).

Magus i avoided a head on charge with the regen/disk/kite/silly class. Since then, devs buffed them further ( this game solo balance is doomed).

P.S. Good vid.

None taken,
I still think WL is one of the (if not) the worst match ups for zealot. I think its gotten a bit easier due to the zeal buffs and maybe the fact that most wls seem to run some sort of regen build these days.. but a good full dmg wl can definitely just pop zealots in the opener.

True, WLs' burst combo is insane. On my zeal i sit at 9.1k HP unbuffed, -2.5% CTBC (yeah, negative), yet if dont counter WLs burst with defensives (get ninja jumped or simply have those on CDs) - in 8 out 10 cases i either dont survive the KD or, if I do, I'm at ~1-1.5k HP after KD, which makes recovery highly improbable (not impossible, still potentially realistic, just very low chances of success).

Just a note on the WL. It has realtively low crit chance compared to other order dps classes. i.e WH reaches 54% ( full bis sov proc+ bullet proc). SW 70% , BW etc.

A bis full crit WL has at the MOST 42% ( includes both annulus rings + crit lini).

So my point being is that investing into futile strike IV would go a long way to help you guys survive such a WL opener, a -10 would cut greatly into a WL burst potential.

[Stinksuit]

None taken,
I still think WL is one of the (if not) the worst match ups for zealot. I think its gotten a bit easier due to the zeal buffs and maybe the fact that most wls seem to run some sort of regen build these days.. but a good full dmg wl can definitely just pop zealots in the opener.

True, WLs' burst combo is insane. On my zeal i sit at 9.1k HP unbuffed, -2.5% CTBC (yeah, negative), yet if dont counter WLs burst with defensives (get ninja jumped or simply have those on CDs) - in 8 out 10 cases i either dont survive the KD or, if I do, I'm at ~1-1.5k HP after KD, which makes recovery highly improbable (not impossible, still potentially realistic, just very low chances of success).

Just a note on the WL. It has realtively low crit chance compared to other order dps classes. i.e WH reaches 54% ( full bis sov proc+ bullet proc). SW 70% , BW etc.

A bis full crit WL has at the MOST 42% ( includes both annulus rings + crit lini).

So my point being is that investing into futile strike IV would go a long way to help you guys survive such a WL opener, a -10 would cut greatly into a WL burst potential.

Going 4x fs as a solo dps zeal is way too expensive imo. It would ultimately cut ones own crit by 9% (imo not worth it) you can ofcourse make super tanky dps zealot and just slowly kill people with no self sustain with dots but I prefer the higher dmg myself I dont mind dying more since I also kill more.

[Farrul]

Going 4x fs as a solo dps zeal is way too expensive imo. It would ultimately cut ones own crit by 9% (imo not worth it) you can ofcourse make super tanky dps zealot and just slowly kill people with no self sustain with dots but I prefer the higher dmg myself I dont mind dying more since I also kill more.

Yeah i can see your point, killing is more fun . But imho FS IV is point for point OP renown investment( 15 points for 5% increase or -9 for the same amount).

[Stinksuit]

Going 4x fs as a solo dps zeal is way too expensive imo. It would ultimately cut ones own crit by 9% (imo not worth it) you can ofcourse make super tanky dps zealot and just slowly kill people with no self sustain with dots but I prefer the higher dmg myself I dont mind dying more since I also kill more.

Yeah i can see your point, killing is more fun . But imho FS IV is point for point OP renown investment( 15 points for 5% increase or -9 for the same amount).

Then again it has a "issue" of being completely useless if your enemy doesn't stack crit aka mp builds.

I mean its all just personal preference but myself (for soloing) I honestly dont value anti crit as much as I would for group play. Sure I pay the price sometimes when some full crit wh opens and just pops me with bal and 10x crits in a row but it happens so rarely that I just dont see the reason to drop my overall dmg to counter a encounter that happens maybe once a day.