peterthepan3 wrote:Relying on two melee doks in any map other than Eternal Citadel to provide sufficient heals vs a competent order premade = suicide (particularly versus ranged comps, good luck getting off any heals whatsoever).
1 dedicated healer is essential if you wish to fight equal opposition.
I agree that one dedicated healer is essential. I would really like to see a group with 2 DD DoK's, and only 1 other dedicated healer do anything to a good group. In reality, they would be busy just transfer essence spamming and channel heals, wouldn't be doing parry debuff, or any other actual DPS moves and no one dies.
The only way the DD DoK works, two of them even more so is if they are using their damaging moves, syncing up Devour Essence, and they have an armor debuff. If you don't have a mara/tank who can armor debuff you do literally no damage at all unless it is that random unguarded runepriest that is always wondering around in pug sc's (swear it always happens).
The way it works is we do a lot of physical damage, I know we have some non physical damage but yah, most of it is physical (like everything else in this game melee), everyone and their brother/mother/sister stacks armor. So without the armor debuff you do no damage. With it, you basically deal double damage. So you need that first.
If you have two DD doks, you need to make sure one lands the parry debuff, and both are using consume enchantment on the nec classes like SM for example (this wrecks them). They also both need to time their DE's or just have one (usually me) that notices the other DOK (Divy who is never in coms) hit his, so you use yours. You need a lot to make it work vs good groups, and if you fail in any of those categories and you go against a good team like say any of the ones in Mr. Clowny's guild, you will get absolutely facestomped 500-0. It isn't really up for debate, I've played melee DoK more on ROR than just about everyone minus 1-2 people only 1 of which plays a whole lot now - in the 6 man style of play. I've tried every spec, every gear swap, every RR swap, literally everything. You need an armor debuff, and you REALLY need 2 dedicated healers because relying on yourself for heals is a direct correlation with less DPS dealt the more you have to heal minus when your M1 is up.