Klod91 wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 3:23 pm
detrap wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 2:15 pm
Considering your
entire warband (including adjacent warbands) can do significantly more damage in your radius, than any other tank on order, the lack of damage comparable to other tanks is somewhat justifiable.
I think "significantly" is an exaggeration. Besides, you only need 1 Kotbs for that.
Foomy44 wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 2:27 pm
How does having access to 1 tactic (which literally increases damage in aoe situations) prove their damage is lower thsn other tanks? There's a whole lot more factors there than just this.
I must admit, my goal was to transition this topic into Kotbs' general dmg output discussion.
I should have probably just started with that.
Foomy44 wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 2:27 pm
Yes, literally everyone would say this.
First, this is not necessarily true. I've heard people claim the opposite.
Second, when it comes to "everyone" people often just repeat what they heard, without making their own research.
Let's look at Chosen, he also provides auras, but also deals more dmg. What does Kotbs do better than Chosen to justify overall lower dmg output?
So I'll take it from the start, and I interpret the thread as "I want to do more damage" and I there for assume that you're looking at this from a 2h
perspective, as no one cares about how much damage a SnB tank does, otherwise everyone would search for IB for city WBs.
The age old question of utility vs. damage
Chosen doesn't provide AoE snare.
Chosen with a 2h doesn't provide 10% crit.
Chosen doesn't provide +15% healing.
Chosen with a 2h doesn't have access to a armor buff (that also gives AP).
Chosen with a 2h doesn't have access to a secondary interrupt.
Chosen doesn't have a 1200 m3 drop.
What does Chosen get instead?
Well AP drain, single target. (Doesn't need to spec it which no sane KotBS will ever do)
+15% crit from tactic.
Spirit damage.
25% inc. heal debuff aura.
25% parry.
10% crit reduction for group mates (and 10% for self if you spend two tactics for it I.E to counter one tactic from the KotBS you need to spend 2 tactics on the chosen)
in theory we could bring up KotBS 25% outgoing, because neither heal debuff auras are worth it imho in a proper setup, it's if you run WB, and then KotBS outshines in most other aspects except moral self pump and parry.
I have a BiS 2h Chosen, I still feel more useful on my sh*t geared KotBS in a group.
Sure there's a difference in damage but if you struggle on KotBS you will struggle more on Chosen.