[Poll] Should solo players and organized groups be split in distinct scenario queues ?

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Poll: Should scenarios have separate queues for solos and premades ?

Please note that results are sorted by decreasing number of votes received.

Yes – solo players and premade groups should always be in separate queues
66
54%
No, but matchmaking should do more to balance solo and group players fairly
35
28%
Yes, but only during peak hours when there are enough players
11
9%
No – keep everyone in the same queue to avoid splitting the playerbase
9
7%
I have no strong opinion / I’m fine either way
2
2%
Total votes: 123

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Re: [Poll] Should solo players and organized groups be split in distinct scenario queues ?

Post#31 » Sat May 10, 2025 5:34 pm

leondre25 wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 8:44 am
but SCs(atleast to me) are a low stress form of pvp, less blobbing, less coordination just a bit of casual fun for rewards after a long hard day of running around in lakes. im sure others would agree with me

i think its the opposite. In SC you need more skill in playing your char, better timing, positioning, and you have to be more aware of what you teammates are doing. The content of smallscale is generaly more challenging than big scale. And therefor you will encounter more high skilled players, who got a biger understanding of the game and their classes, wich makes the gameplay more challenging.


leondre25 wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 8:44 am
the only option being premade yourself or dont queue wont solve anything. theres a reason why premade only queues were dead 24/7.
premades are not interested in fighting other premades otherwise ranked would still be alive.
when i talk about building or joining a group, i doesnt has to be a full 6man with perfect setup. when you que with 3 people, in 1-1-1 setup, you allready made sure, that your group has at least one tank, one guarded DD, and heal! No matter which random classes build the other 3 man, your group well be much more valid and useful, probably you will carry the whole group through the SC. Even when you are only DD and tank, then at least you can be sure to have a guarded DPS, who is able to do his job, and wont melt instantly. No matter what, every combination of 2,3 or 4 people, is still better then a solo que!

The problem with ranked SC is not, that a group is scared to fight another group. This is what happens every time in SC, cause in many rounds you got 1 premade on both sides, and 1 random group. The difference is, that Ranked SC is very competitive. And you only want to do it, if you can bring a competitive setup by yourself. Not every setup is perfect! When you got 6 guidies online, and 3 of them want to play their DD... well, then you build a group with one tank and 3 DPS, and go for it. Or maybe only one healer is on. Ok then, lets play a bit more passiv, but lets try it with 1 healer. Or you got 2 tanks of same kind.... and so on and on... Thats totaly ok for regular SC! You ca do it succesfully and have fun. But you would not que a ranked SC with these kind of setups, cause its not competitive! When you encounter a 2-2-2 competitive premade, you will loose for sure, just because of the suboptimal setup.
Not every Guild can bring a perfect setup every evening. Most of guilds cant even bring a full 6man every eveening! So they que with 3-4 poeple. And STILL, like i explained above, this is far more better than que solo, and your chance to win will increase drasticly.

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Re: [Poll] Should solo players and organized groups be split in distinct scenario queues ?

Post#32 » Sat May 10, 2025 7:01 pm

So basically you don’t queue when you don’t have a fair shot at winning and get farmed by a superior setup well…..

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Re: [Poll] Should solo players and organized groups be split in distinct scenario queues ?

Post#33 » Sat May 10, 2025 7:31 pm

Bozzax wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 7:01 pm So basically you don’t queue when you don’t have a fair shot at winning and get farmed by a superior setup well…..

Baziiiiiinga!

Of course not, i dont hate myself enough to do so.
But thats what solo quers do, when they que solo instead of building a group.
And in result they are very unhappy when they loose... predestined....

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Re: [Poll] Should solo players and organized groups be split in distinct scenario queues ?

Post#34 » Sat May 10, 2025 8:00 pm

or extend weeklys sc to 7 days. (it was already sugested)
atleast try extend sc weekly (if that dont work) and than seperate solo from prem.
p.s ranked died because ''tryhards'' gained more crests stomping pugs on weekly sc. there is diferencce 2 kills or 30kills.
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Re: [Poll] Should solo players and organized groups be split in distinct scenario queues ?

Post#35 » Sat May 10, 2025 8:18 pm

If the playerbase was 5 times more players, yes. But atm it's way to few players.

Matchmaking should get fixed.

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Re: [Poll] Should solo players and organized groups be split in distinct scenario queues ?

Post#36 » Sat May 10, 2025 9:27 pm

This is how I look at it, not that anyone cares about my .02 .

I'm in favor of having solo only ques', and then group ques. I'm also in favor of making the weekend SC available for solo ques so that wasy solo players don't feel "forced" to que up vs what is possibly a premade on opposite side.

But I also realize that alot of "solo" players won't que up for solo only ques because no one will carry them, a lot of "solo" players que up hoping that a premade is on their side and they can get carried for as long as possible.if they don't get a winning sc, they will just wait the 4 min the.surr. I have zero fix for that.
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Re: [Poll] Should solo players and organized groups be split in distinct scenario queues ?

Post#37 » Sat May 10, 2025 9:49 pm

I missed the poll it seems. Yes split them. No one likes premading anyway they just do it for the free biscuits

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Re: [Poll] Should solo players and organized groups be split in distinct scenario queues ?

Post#38 » Sat May 10, 2025 9:50 pm

Florian90210 wrote: Mon May 05, 2025 9:02 pm Sadly players themselves are part of a problem. Why they keep queuing even though they know that there is premade? Just stop queuing. Don't feed, just leave SC.
Indeed. But ofcourse they are a bit nooby. That's why the premades love to farm them

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Re: [Poll] Should solo players and organized groups be split in distinct scenario queues ?

Post#39 » Sun May 11, 2025 7:10 am

salazarn wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 9:49 pm I missed the poll it seems. Yes split them. No one likes premading anyway they just do it for the free biscuits

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I also missed the poll it seems. When you split solos and "premades", wich everyone here identifies as 6man groups... what will happen to the 2-5 player groups? they cant join the solo que right? and they cant join the 6man que, because obviously, they are not a full group. Is it something that the keen and genious solo quers here thought about? Are you aware, that the majority of quers are wether solo nor 6 man, but in between with 2-5 people? What are you gonna do with them? Deny access to them for SC? For pug life benefit?

I hope that the devs are smart enough to not listening to this nonsense going on here... Nothing against matchmaking changes, or SC design adjustments. But to seperate solo from group que completely, wont work in any way, and will result in no pops for anyone. IMO its a tear and troll festival here, organized by noobs who are not aware of how this game is intendet to work and how to play, who dont want to leave their solo que comfort zone, and want to be baby powdered in any possible way.

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Re: [Poll] Should solo players and organized groups be split in distinct scenario queues ?

Post#40 » Sun May 11, 2025 7:19 am

kirraha wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 8:18 pm If the playerbase was 5 times more players, yes. But atm it's way to few players.

Matchmaking should get fixed.
Nothing wrong with the player base it is the scenario player base that don’t exist anymore

It is a direct result of the barriers, matchmaking that prioritise groups over queue time and fill with solou

Stuff that should be reverted/ removed
1. Barriers
2. Surrender (only gives more match time to strong sides)
3. Solo q (less separation is better
4. Picking groups first for matches regardless of q time
5. Not queuing ranked (also) while queuing as a group in normal queue
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