My reasons NOT to play Return of Reckoning in 2025 as a NEW/SOLO player!

[AsylumZA]

Can we go ahead and remove this? I believe in TOS there is to be no doom and gloom post about why you are leaving the game or are not playing the game. There's better ways to be constructive than this.

Sorry, who said I was leaving?

What I was doing was giving a honest and very true account of what I experienced as a NEW/SOLO player.

If you cant see that, then perhaps you need to take a look at yourself, instead of crying wolf and not understanding the value of my struggles/insight that the Dev's could use for their improvement of the game as a whole.

God bless you and I hope you have a beautiful day.

[AsylumZA]

The big zerg/blob guilds that will carry you to rr80 BiS all openly recruit everyone and anyone.

Wish I found one of them however I didn't.

[AsylumZA]

I play in EU prime and sometimes in NA prime too. Every single day, I see war bands forming openly accepting level 16+ characters. Are they they best war bands on the field? Nope. BUT they are effective.
Seriously, did you, as a solo player, in the default RoR realm public guild expect to join a private guild run warband? Now if you join one of these guilds that form the private good warbands, you can get in.
You have no one helping you get BiS for your level and renown rank. You have no one helping you get best pots and talismans for your level and renown rank.

Don't get me wrong. I play solo as well. And I have inherited two rank 40 guilds (one in either realm) that allows me all available guild benefits, and allows me to keep playing solo. But I also realize that as a solo player I have limitations.

I play in EU prime as well and as a NEW player I didn't know the Warbands were private/guild run .. I mean their WB was published in the open groups, hence my trying to join it and experiencing what I did.

Also I'm not expecting to have anyone handhold me .. all i was showing was that the actual experience I had was very arduous at the very least.

[Hazmy]

The big zerg/blob guilds that will carry you to rr80 BiS all openly recruit everyone and anyone.

Wish I found one of them however I didn't.

I wouldn't normally chime in, but I wanted to add context.

It’s worth noting that you did try joining such a guild, my guild, but unfortunately you never joined any our events or warbands yet, especially as we don't kick low level players. As I recall, you were still undecided on your class choice, and we did advise against focusing on DPS Chosen based on your goals. I hope your impressions of '0 Damage' aren’t coming solely from trying to do so, since we explained why it is not a good idea.

Today, I only found out you left our guild from this very forum post, before asking us for any further help or using our guides that help the issues you posted here, so I find this a little bit one-sided as far as new player feedback goes.

[live4treasure]

The fact that the new player experience in RoR is not great is the truth. Anyone who believes otherwise is either out of touch with reality, has an ulterior motive in making the game less accessible or hasn't played a new MMO in a while and doesn't have anything to compare with.

The fact that the modern gamer tends to expect the game to hand-hold you and crumbles at the first sign of difficulty is also the truth.

That said, the OP in this case did join a newbie friendly guild, and unfortunately due to the game having a rather high skill floor, seemed to give up almost immediately and, what's worse, refused the advice given to him. It seems genuine advice was mistaken for "cliques", and while some of what was written is genuinely worthwhile criticism, I believe we have a case of a karen wishing to speak with the manager, when in fact this time it isn't the store's fault.

[AsylumZA]

The big zerg/blob guilds that will carry you to rr80 BiS all openly recruit everyone and anyone.

Wish I found one of them however I didn't.

I wouldn't normally chime in, but I wanted to add context.

Agreed, context is 100% valid to paint a better picture. So thank you for chiming in, everyone is welcome! <3

Lets add in more context to paint that better picture

It’s worth noting that you did try joining such a guild, my guild, but unfortunately you never joined any our events or warbands yet, especially as we don't kick low level players. As I recall, you were still undecided on your class choice, and we did advise against focusing on DPS Chosen based on your goals. I hope your impressions of '0 Damage' aren’t coming solely from trying to do so, since we explained why it is not a good idea.

I was levelling and wasn't in range of joining your Chaos only WB (I think I was level 10 at the time with my Magus), so my fault 100% and I did what you suggested. "Create other characters" to see what I liked and what I disliked playing, so I did that and I adhered to your rules of your Chaos only WB and didnt join it with my non Chaos character. I mean heck, I was low level at the time and couldn't even if I wanted to join it as I was still in T1.

Today, I only found out you left our guild from this very forum post, before asking us for any further help or using our guides that help the issues you posted here, so I find this a little bit one-sided as far as new player feedback goes.

I'm not pointing fingers or blaming anyone, in a mater of fact I enjoyed your guild!

Like you said, choosing Magus was most probably the stupidest choice because of there only being between one or two Magus's within a WB because of their 1 skill that's broken (Tornado was it?) and the highest Magus's skill being used which effectively makes other magus's in the WB defunct because of this BUG.

I'm giving a 100% factual account from my side as a new player, which wasn't based on joining your guild. However you sure are making those that read this think that it is. I'm trying to give a well rounded account on my entirety of the overall experience of RoR

So again, thanks for helping me colour this picture in!

If you feel that this was an attack on you and your guild, it truly wasn't and I can relate to your response and empathise with your feelings!

[AsylumZA]

The fact that the new player experience in RoR is not great is the truth. Anyone who believes otherwise is either out of touch with reality, has an ulterior motive in making the game less accessible or hasn't played a new MMO in a while and doesn't have anything to compare with.

The fact that the modern gamer tends to expect the game to hand-hold you and crumbles at the first sign of difficulty is also the truth.

That said, the OP in this case did join a newbie friendly guild, and unfortunately due to the game having a rather high skill floor, seemed to give up almost immediately and, what's worse, refused the advice given to him. It seems genuine advice was mistaken for "cliques", and while some of what was written is genuinely worthwhile criticism, I believe we have a case of a karen wishing to speak with the manager, when in fact this time it isn't the store's fault.

Not a Karren and name calling doesn't really show a good side in a open discussion I'm trying to hold. Also I haven't crumbled, which shows you haven't read the entirety of the discussion , didn't give up, didn't ask or expect handholding. So i guess your supposed truth your trying to paint me with isn't really a truth after all.

Thank you for being honest about the new player experience in RoR which is what I'm trying to highlight.

I'm not into name calling or labelling RoR as a failure, so if we can revert back to a mature and adult discussion, I'd greatly appreciate that.

[saiho]

The fact that the new player experience in RoR is not great is the truth. Anyone who believes otherwise is either out of touch with reality, has an ulterior motive in making the game less accessible or hasn't played a new MMO in a while and doesn't have anything to compare with.

The fact that the modern gamer tends to expect the game to hand-hold you and crumbles at the first sign of difficulty is also the truth.

That said, the OP in this case did join a newbie friendly guild, and unfortunately due to the game having a rather high skill floor, seemed to give up almost immediately and, what's worse, refused the advice given to him. It seems genuine advice was mistaken for "cliques", and while some of what was written is genuinely worthwhile criticism, I believe we have a case of a karen wishing to speak with the manager, when in fact this time it isn't the store's fault.

The game has a low skill floor & low skill ceiling, its got a high base requirement of understanding the game. Like when he noted he had to run all the way as a level 1 player when he could war report, things like that a new player wont know

[salazarn]

I mean that's just ror. It's profoundly unfair.

Most of the fights are dictated by either numbers or comp or gear. Ofcourse you can't really blame the devs they do the good work here. But you can't help butfeel some systems from the original game might hlep fights feel more...dynamic for newer people or smaller teams or less optimally geared players.

[AsylumZA]

The fact that the new player experience in RoR is not great is the truth. Anyone who believes otherwise is either out of touch with reality, has an ulterior motive in making the game less accessible or hasn't played a new MMO in a while and doesn't have anything to compare with.

The fact that the modern gamer tends to expect the game to hand-hold you and crumbles at the first sign of difficulty is also the truth.

That said, the OP in this case did join a newbie friendly guild, and unfortunately due to the game having a rather high skill floor, seemed to give up almost immediately and, what's worse, refused the advice given to him. It seems genuine advice was mistaken for "cliques", and while some of what was written is genuinely worthwhile criticism, I believe we have a case of a karen wishing to speak with the manager, when in fact this time it isn't the store's fault.

The game has a low skill floor & low skill ceiling, its got a high base requirement of understanding the game. Like when he noted he had to run all the way as a level 1 player when he could war report, things like that a new player wont know

Thank you for adding value to the conversation!

This is exactly what I'm trying to point out.