My reasons NOT to play Return of Reckoning in 2025 as a NEW/SOLO player!

[saiho]

Take a look at the title nuff said

Improve your reading comprehension with that cocky "nuff said", it simply states reasons to NOT play it as a new or solo player, it doesnt say reasons why he WONT play it as a solo or new player

Can you chill out with the insults? Im simply reading the title of the post.

You literally just gave him the sassiest response of all time telling him to look at his own title followed by "nuff said" ?

[Lisutaris]

Spoiler:

Hello I've read through this all I'm a new-ish player, (played live and meddled around on the server but never reached lvl 40 here or live). I'm super fatigued from the pve grind of every other mmo (WoW, Archeage, Black Desert, somehow TnL was the worst of all), unrelated but w/e that's why I'm here now.

I've been having a great time tbh. I've heard that'll change once I hit 40 so we'll see. I've settled on kotbs at lvl 33 for now as my first main after playing engi and wp to 30ish, slayer to 20. I haven't had much issue with bolster as long as I keep my gear up-to-date with my level. Yeah I'm not hitting as hard or as tanky as fully geared vets but I don't feel like I should be anyway and after I specced the engi right from following the lad to chad guide and started slotting talis as I level it's able to hit pretty damn hard. It helps there's always a lot of other ppl leveling alts and things and I tend to focus those targets rather than ones marked "dangerous" or w/e in open RvR.

I've been kicked from wbs a few times but it's never been a big deal, one time he even invited me back and apologized for his autoband settings being what they were at the time lol. My interactions I'd honestly say have been the inverse of yours: 90% good, 10% bad. I ask questions and get offered help almost every day in-game and the RoR streamers on twitch have been super helpful and welcoming unfortunately the order streamers seem to be mostly solo and the rest are destro. The bad is literally just the usual incompatible/toxic personalities that are about, which unfortunately I don't feel like I have the luxury of blocking since the population is so small practically anyone that's vocal in-game is an asset.

Guilds have been tough. I got invited to a guy's guild after he carried one of my toons through sewers and it's pretty dead here. I feel bad for leaving especially since they do still help me whenever they are online but I'm a organized mmo pvp vet and I want that itch scratched. Now aside from that it's been tough to decipher what guilds are actually doing things. I know xrealming is popular but I'm not anywhere near the point of wanting to start over on destro yet or progress 2 realms simultaneously. I'm hesitant to go through the whole rigamaroo of applying and getting on discord just to find I don't like the guild or they don't like me and have to do it again. That's certainly not unique to this game but makes it feel worse because of the small population. After reading through this it seems like a lot of resources/info are somewhat hidden in those guild discords though so maybe I'll just make a RoR folder on my discord and start joining guilds and keep them all in there.
some edits for clarity.


Dude,

Thank you so much for sharing your experiences and I'm stoked to hear that you had the reverse of what I was, perhaps that's the one thing new or solo people should try play is a Tank first and then branch to other aspects of the game once we've learnt it.

Its things like this that I value as input because there's always two sides to everyone's experience and I feel that we can learn from everyone!

Much appreciated and god bless!

No problem, thing is, I am more on the other side of this situatiuon, usually the one helping in advice. But I rarely see someone getting ignored there or really bad/wrong input happening. Btw, updated my signature with some useful links, your post made me do so

[Tusakano]

Dude,

Thank you so much for sharing your experiences and I'm stoked to hear that you had the reverse of what I was, perhaps that's the one thing new or solo people should try play is a Tank first and then branch to other aspects of the game once we've learnt it.

Its things like this that I value as input because there's always two sides to everyone's experience and I feel that we can learn from everyone!

Much appreciated and god bless!

I'd actually say the engi is easier to play especially grenadier I just spam grenades and shotgun lol! I'm almost always a tank main in any game I play and order needs tanks/melee bad so I made the kotbs and realized how much fun it was. I had watched some starter vid saying tank was a little tough to play with managing guard but I just installed guard addon and some other addons and it's no problem. I think new players need to be told earlier how important addons are to enjoy the game competitively and I think guard addon, if it was cleaned up a bit, should probably be integrated into the game tbh. It's important for everyone to know their guard distance, not just tanks. The mark target addon 100% needs to be default in-game I would be just totally completely lost if I couldn't mark my warband leader.

[Martok]

This thread is gold. Thanks to all who have participated so far.

In addition, this topic was discussed during the most recent Tothmonra Return of Reckoning Podcast. For the brief TL/DR version, advance to the one-minute fifteen mark of this video and it will all be summed up nicely:



Click here to watch on YouTube

[shoelessHN]

Also lets not forget that current existing players all buying BoE Items, +16 Talismans & Armor potions in tier 1 where a new player has access to none of it standing quite literally no chance versus someone who just buys the twink gear and goes around 1v5ing in T1. Idk why T1 talismans still exist it creates for an even worse experience for a new player, feeling absolutely helpless & useless to someone who twinks

How do they have access to none of it, at level 5 it puts you into a guild where people will regularly give you free stuff. Well, not if you don't ask.

[Pulptenks]

Thread title is bad anyways. MMO RPG are not solo games. Wrong type of games to play solo. I know moderns mmo being desperate for cash try catering to solo's but it's also what ruins them all and why so many old school private servers thrives on.

There's a plethora of games to play solo. And before any bla bla bla and but, it's not a a 1v1 game. Want to 1v1 pvp? Play a fighting game. Thats where you can train your skills without gear and push to get good.

[Demonito]

As a new player since july 2024, the game is awesome.

[gisborne]

Also lets not forget that current existing players all buying BoE Items, +16 Talismans & Armor potions in tier 1 where a new player has access to none of it standing quite literally no chance versus someone who just buys the twink gear and goes around 1v5ing in T1. Idk why T1 talismans still exist it creates for an even worse experience for a new player, feeling absolutely helpless & useless to someone who twinks

This is completely not true. I regularly play characters in T1 and have never seen 1v5 nor have I seen "all" existing players with BoE items and +16 talismans. Rarely do I see players with armor and stat potions (btw they literally mail you armor potions every 10 realm ranks). And, as if your claims weren't bad enough, a "twinked out" lvl 15 in BoE and +16 stat talismans still isn't much stronger (if at all) than a lvl 8 who just got their set or lvl 10 who just got an influence weapon + lair helm + influence shoulders, thanks to bolster.

The problem with the new player experience is not T1. It's everything after.

[gisborne]

Thread title is bad anyways. MMO RPG are not solo games. Wrong type of games to play solo. I know moderns mmo being desperate for cash try catering to solo's but it's also what ruins them all and why so many old school private servers thrives on.

There's a plethora of games to play solo. And before any bla bla bla and but, it's not a a 1v1 game. Want to 1v1 pvp? Play a fighting game. Thats where you can train your skills without gear and push to get good.

Solo in the context of the OP means joining without friends, not solo as in doing everything in the game alone. In other words, the experience of someone who comes to this game with no resources or knowledge or help vs. someone who comes and has experienced buddies there to help them along and group with them all the time.

[saiho]

Also lets not forget that current existing players all buying BoE Items, +16 Talismans & Armor potions in tier 1 where a new player has access to none of it standing quite literally no chance versus someone who just buys the twink gear and goes around 1v5ing in T1. Idk why T1 talismans still exist it creates for an even worse experience for a new player, feeling absolutely helpless & useless to someone who twinks

This is completely not true. I regularly play characters in T1 and have never seen 1v5 nor have I seen "all" existing players with BoE items and +16 talismans. Rarely do I see players with armor and stat potions (btw they literally mail you armor potions every 10 realm ranks). And, as if your claims weren't bad enough, a "twinked out" lvl 15 in BoE and +16 stat talismans still isn't much stronger (if at all) than a lvl 8 who just got their set or lvl 10 who just got an influence weapon + lair helm + influence shoulders, thanks to bolster.

The problem with the new player experience is not T1. It's everything after.

Lol what you are saying is completely untrue in every single way, both as someone who has fought multiple people in twinked out gear and myself who have bought twinked out gear in the past. Ive seen first hand just how strong it is, youre also bringing in lair gear which a new player will most likely not be familiar with. Versus a twinked out toon with all lair pieces, cape, helmet & everything with full on talismans. Bolster brings you up to your softcap in stats for that level which is what makes you so strong, a level 2-3 Bolster gets like around 260 strength but a level 11-13 Player fully twinked out in talismans has multiple times those stats and thats just a hard fact, not to mention you only get 2 free potions in mail both HP and Armor pot, meanwhile twink toons run with a full stack of armor pot and HP pots, youre not competing w someone chugging pots with twice ur stats. And if u think you do youre on some hot copium

A large portion of the problem does lie in T1, Its where Ive seen most people give up on the game and quit. Because either side is 200-400% AAO most of the time, people dont want to sit afk and do nothing. And then zone flips to Elf and now youre running a marathon across the map on each death because the zone is too large for a 25% Mount if you want to get action, or a new player playing a DPS Thinking they will actually deal damage to an AM or a Shaman only to realise that once the fight is over their HP hasnt moved one inch, ive seen it happen an ungodly amount of times hundreds of people quitting in T1.

Do you not remember when Lazypeon brought us a large influx of players and within 3 days nearly the entire influx had completely exited out and left the game? 90% of those had not left TIer 1.