White Lion Nerf when?

[akeskin69]

When Marauder and choppa nerf??

You already nerfed Slayers see top chart every month 0 slayers almost and even in game?

[Amakusa]

Im so excited about the DPS balance Patch
Imagine Engi gest a CritDMG tactic...

Hopefully we get a meta shakeup so ppl can cry about other careers ;P

[Omegamegaman]

hope choppa gets some love

[Illuminati]

heck, a mechanic tweak would make Slayer/Choppa more desirable. Destro plays Choppa because it needs to, but Order has a choice between a character that requires almost dedicated healing/guard/cc to support vs one you don't have to babysit. Unless you're going for some killboard monthly.

[Aethilmar]

If, and and this is a HUGE "if", anything needs to be adjusted for a White Lion it is the damage on Whirling Axe and maybe the skill groupings.

In particular its "natural" progression vs the Mara (which is its Destro counterpart) makes it waaaay more effective earlier in RR for warband play while maintaining single-target viability. For example, WL Invader armor has natural bonuses for the Hunter path (which is single target burst AND AOE) while the Invader armor for Mara is for Brutality (single target burst).

Everything else is folks just complaining b/c they got killed solo by a class designed to kill things. And a class that isn't that hard to kill if you are similar RR and gear either especially if you are a Chosen or Shammy which are two of the most popular Destro classes (ps the Mara has been getting more play by folks according to latest stats too ... wonder what is up?)

[kleinbuchstabe]

Im so excited about the DPS balance Patch

i think its a legend. and even when it comes, WL will stay untouched, or will become even stronger than it is. Like everytime. People cried for nerfs over the years, and he became stronger and stronger, until a point where it is ridiculous like it is now. TBH i dont have trust that this will get good. look how long this class is broken, and nothing happened.
Instead you see more and more lions everywhere, all groups are full with them. In 24man SC its resulting in 4-6 of this op guys do their jump-kd-kill thing at the same time on one target, and kill even tanks now before the kd ends... everytime when i got exhausted of the game on destro, its because of white lion in some way. imo its a game breaking inbalance. but no one gives a damn about it, some WL players even want to push it more. and if you talk about it in forum, its order bias by destro.
i know, everyone here is toxic and hatefull, and nobody cares and wont miss anyone who leaves the game, but im just saying that after the hundret millionth death by lions jump-kd without any chance, it makes me log out more and more often. it reached a point where i just dont want to play against them anymore with some classes, and log order instead of destro just to avoid them.

[Ruin]

heck, a mechanic tweak would make Slayer/Choppa more desirable. Destro plays Choppa because it needs to, but Order has a choice between a character that requires almost dedicated healing/guard/cc to support vs one you don't have to babysit. Unless you're going for some killboard monthly.

Destro also have choices, the choppa/mara is the obvous one, but the mSH is also a very potent WB mdps.

[Sinisterror]

People please. Its simple, Remove Wl's 360 Whirling Axe and make it 180 degrees, Removal of 25% armour pene tactics(probably for all not just for WL). Remove all the x y z Restrictions on Wl pet(maybe all pets) same for pounce+pull so Mid air/To keep Pouncing and pulling is possible. Make Wl snare 10s duration 5s cooldown again. Remove Pounce From MSH. Remove ICD of Run Away! Tactic

Do the same for Engi/Magus pull. Slayer Rampage to 100% but not working on Morale avoidances and no undefendable guard dmg. Make ID 10s Cooldown so Short Temper drops it to 5s and CD reducer to 0s cooldown.

Remove the CD reducer from BG(lol..) Back to Choppa while removing Git to Da choppa from the game. Or To Black Orc WAAAGH!? Skill not needing tactic, BG dont need one, SM doesnt so why BLORC should?

Make Fs Cooldown 20s. Red goes Faster drops it to 15s and CD reducer to 10s. Same logic goes to Sorceress Neverending Agony ie Machine gun Sorc should make return.

https://imgur.com/a/uWqwb5V - This proc used to be for every class in some form, if not rr 38 inf wpn 1h or 2h then from t4 epic quest wpns. This Proc used to exist in gear BELOW LVL 40. How about returning these procs ror just removed giving nothing, literally in return. This proc is now 4pc Onslaught for WH/WE/Sorc/Bw or 7pc Sovereign/Warlord. WHY?

AND SO MUCH MORE. The answer why everything is so bad now, is because it was good/powerful and people cried and now everything is removed or semi mirrored in a boring way.

[rady]

People please. Its simple, Remove Wl's 360 Whirling Axe and make it 180 degrees, Removal of 25% armour pene tactics(probably for all not just for WL). Remove all the x y z Restrictions on Wl pet(maybe all pets) same for pounce+pull so Mid air/To keep Pouncing and pulling is possible. Make Wl snare 10s duration 5s cooldown again. Remove Pounce From MSH. Remove ICD of Run Away! Tactic

Do the same for Engi/Magus pull. Slayer Rampage to 100% but not working on Morale avoidances and no undefendable guard dmg. Make ID 10s Cooldown so Short Temper drops it to 5s and CD reducer to 0s cooldown.

Remove the CD reducer from BG(lol..) Back to Choppa while removing Git to Da choppa from the game. Or To Black Orc WAAAGH!? Skill not needing tactic, BG dont need one, SM doesnt so why BLORC should?

Make Fs Cooldown 20s. Red goes Faster drops it to 15s and CD reducer to 10s. Same logic goes to Sorceress Neverending Agony ie Machine gun Sorc should make return.

AND SO MUCH MORE. The answer why everything is so bad now, is because it was good/powerful and people cried and now everything is removed or semi mirrored in a boring way.

I agree with almost everything here.

[Nelly74]

People please. Its simple, Remove Wl's 360 Whirling Axe and make it 180 degrees, Removal of 25% armour pene tactics(probably for all not just for WL). Remove all the x y z Restrictions on Wl pet(maybe all pets) same for pounce+pull so Mid air/To keep Pouncing and pulling is possible. Make Wl snare 10s duration 5s cooldown again. Remove Pounce From MSH. Remove ICD of Run Away! Tactic

Do the same for Engi/Magus pull. Slayer Rampage to 100% but not working on Morale avoidances and no undefendable guard dmg. Make ID 10s Cooldown so Short Temper drops it to 5s and CD reducer to 0s cooldown.

Remove the CD reducer from BG(lol..) Back to Choppa while removing Git to Da choppa from the game. Or To Black Orc WAAAGH!? Skill not needing tactic, BG dont need one, SM doesnt so why BLORC should?

Make Fs Cooldown 20s. Red goes Faster drops it to 15s and CD reducer to 10s. Same logic goes to Sorceress Neverending Agony ie Machine gun Sorc should make return.

https://imgur.com/a/uWqwb5V - This proc used to be for every class in some form, if not rr 38 inf wpn 1h or 2h then from t4 epic quest wpns. This Proc used to exist in gear BELOW LVL 40. How about returning these procs ror just removed giving nothing, literally in return. This proc is now 4pc Onslaught for WH/WE/Sorc/Bw or 7pc Sovereign/Warlord. WHY?

AND SO MUCH MORE. The answer why everything is so bad now, is because it was good/powerful and people cried and now everything is removed or semi mirrored in a boring way.

Also agree with that. Just common sense, simple and easy to apply. Fixing the current WL is just as urgent as making the Slayer interesting again. Again, it's all about common sense, nothing more.