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Illuminati
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Re: White Lion Nerf when?

Post#51 » Tue Jul 22, 2025 3:27 pm

Ruin wrote: Tue Jul 22, 2025 9:26 am
Illuminati wrote: Mon Jul 21, 2025 10:02 pm heck, a mechanic tweak would make Slayer/Choppa more desirable. Destro plays Choppa because it needs to, but Order has a choice between a character that requires almost dedicated healing/guard/cc to support vs one you don't have to babysit. Unless you're going for some killboard monthly.
Destro also have choices, the choppa/mara is the obvous one, but the mSH is also a very potent WB mdps.
The part you may not get (no offense) is WL usability in every scenario of gameplay atm. I can run a 6x person roam with it, WB with it, solo with it, SC with it, and everything else. It works really well with Tanky front line + pounce in execute role and escape if things go bad or top tier AOE.

The mix of mobility, burst, AoE, utility all in one class is the problem. The RoR team can either bring a whole bunch of classes up to equal viability, which would be too hard for a small team, or reduce the capabilities of one class so optionality occurs.

There has been a number of solutions offered to hot fix this problem in this thread. The WL in its current form made sense when the pop was 55-60% destro vs 40-45% order. It's been 55%+> order at peak times during the day for some time now.
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Re: White Lion Nerf when?

Post#52 » Tue Jul 22, 2025 11:05 pm

I appreciate everyone responding , I don't want to be that guy crying about some class because I died. It has been repeated deaths over years and trying everything to adapt.. but still the WL is just so broken and it gets very frustrating to have to deal with it. And there are just so many of them now. I hope I don't have to make this post again in another 6 months :P

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yoluigi
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Re: White Lion Nerf when?

Post#53 » Wed Jul 23, 2025 12:07 am

Even more broken is Magus been tankier than tanks and hit 2-3k crits. Only problem with the mentality with nerfing everything is after nothing is fun and there only 1 class left that dominate. Am more for buffing classes to make them great instead of all mediocre and 1 class do decent.

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Xumae
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Re: White Lion Nerf when?

Post#54 » Wed Jul 23, 2025 12:14 am

yoluigi wrote: Wed Jul 23, 2025 12:07 am Even more broken is Magus been tankier than tanks and hit 2-3k crits. Only problem with the mentality with nerfing everything is after nothing is fun and there only 1 class left that dominate. Am more for buffing classes to make them great instead of all mediocre and 1 class do decent.
Couldn't agree more with this. quit nerfing dmg like how we and wh went from 50% armor pen to 25%. Mara piercing bite nerfed to 25%, wounds debuf nerfed years ago. buff certain dmg classes to be in line with white lions, or xyz class.
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Fey
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Re: White Lion Nerf when?

Post#55 » Wed Jul 23, 2025 12:25 am

Can we get a nerd in here to test and compare Spinning Axe with Wrecking Ball? The issue seems to be with this one ability, and it should be more or less the same delve with the same stat contribution.
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Fey
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Re: White Lion Nerf when?

Post#56 » Wed Jul 23, 2025 12:30 am

The delves on the career builder are more less the same. Is the issue that Whirling axe is 360 degrees vs frontal cone? The range is 25 ft while Wrecking Ball is 30. The range on a frontal cone should probably be a bigger difference. Maybe 25 ft aoe vs a 40 foot front arc.
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