How do I counter the heals?
How do I counter the heals?
Hi, I am a lvl 7 choppa that took part in a scenario and I could not dmg anyone because of the insane heals they got. Also my teammates could barely kill them too and they could easily kill us...I tried killing one mage but he outhealed my dmg! What can I do? Is a black orc better for this job?
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shoelessHN
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Re: How do I counter the heals?
T1 isn't balanced whatsoever.
A good healer is worth 3-5 other players in t1, and they're unkillable 1v1. You need heal debuffs, interrupts/knockdowns, etc. which you won't get until t2.
Enough AOE (chop / magus) can slowly kill groups in t1 because healers lack good group heals and AP generation.
A good healer is worth 3-5 other players in t1, and they're unkillable 1v1. You need heal debuffs, interrupts/knockdowns, etc. which you won't get until t2.
Enough AOE (chop / magus) can slowly kill groups in t1 because healers lack good group heals and AP generation.
- kleinbuchstabe
- Posts: 118
Re: How do I counter the heals?
yes T1 is not balanced at all, and more a kind of chaotic push and shove gameplay.
But later it still wont be easy to kill a healer solo with dps, because of his detaunt and enough healing and absorb tools, to outheal your damage.
With a Choppa on middle mastery path (2hdr), you can have incoming and outgoing heal debuff, cooldown increase and knockdown, so all tools that you need to mess up a healer. Still its possible, that you wont be able to kill him solo. But you will definetly take him out of the game, cause he will be forced to keep himself alive with all the trouble you cause him
But later it still wont be easy to kill a healer solo with dps, because of his detaunt and enough healing and absorb tools, to outheal your damage.
With a Choppa on middle mastery path (2hdr), you can have incoming and outgoing heal debuff, cooldown increase and knockdown, so all tools that you need to mess up a healer. Still its possible, that you wont be able to kill him solo. But you will definetly take him out of the game, cause he will be forced to keep himself alive with all the trouble you cause him
Re: How do I counter the heals?
Tier 1 as the others have said is not fully balanced and people don't get the tools to fight healers efficiently yet.
Also very important that the game is designed around group play, and expects you to play in a group. This means you also having a tank, a healer, but also a co-dps player who has access to abilities like Heal Debuff and Armor Debuff to be able to burst down targets.
In Tier 1, Witch Elves and Marauders have access to Heal Debuffs that I know top of my head
Also very important that the game is designed around group play, and expects you to play in a group. This means you also having a tank, a healer, but also a co-dps player who has access to abilities like Heal Debuff and Armor Debuff to be able to burst down targets.
In Tier 1, Witch Elves and Marauders have access to Heal Debuffs that I know top of my head
Re: How do I counter the heals?
At higher levels DPS get heal debuffs, knockdowns/silences, and do a ton more damage.
But also consider that if you couldn't kill the healer, were they killing you? You might be frustrated that you're bashing forever on a healer to no effect but the healer is just as frustrated that you get to bash on them and they have to sit there and spam heals on themselves.
But also consider that if you couldn't kill the healer, were they killing you? You might be frustrated that you're bashing forever on a healer to no effect but the healer is just as frustrated that you get to bash on them and they have to sit there and spam heals on themselves.
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Forbiddian
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Re: How do I counter the heals?
with 1.5 secs global cooldown? forget about that on T1 and on T4 regardless of whats said in here
- georgehabadasher
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Re: How do I counter the heals?
The game has always had a 1.5 second GCD except for a few years on RoR. It was 1.5s for its entire run on live servers.Forbiddian wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 7:12 am with 1.5 secs global cooldown? forget about that on T1 and on T4 regardless of whats said in here
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nocturnalguest
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Re: How do I counter the heals?
Nope, it wasnt 1.5 on livegeorgehabadasher wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 9:04 amThe game has always had a 1.5 second GCD except for a few years on RoR. It was 1.5s for its entire run on live servers.Forbiddian wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 7:12 am with 1.5 secs global cooldown? forget about that on T1 and on T4 regardless of whats said in here
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- nebelwerfer
- Posts: 704
Re: How do I counter the heals?
All dps have access to morale 1 "sever nerve" quite early as far as i know.
If this ability would also increase action point cost of abilities by 50% for 10 seconds the game would be more balanced towards dps in terms of killing a healer that is under single target pressure.
Increasing ap cost, removing ap or something to that effect fits the theme of severing a nerve and I think it would work quite well to balance the offensive and defensive morales a bit more.
If this ability would also increase action point cost of abilities by 50% for 10 seconds the game would be more balanced towards dps in terms of killing a healer that is under single target pressure.
Increasing ap cost, removing ap or something to that effect fits the theme of severing a nerve and I think it would work quite well to balance the offensive and defensive morales a bit more.
- TrainInVain
- Posts: 146
Re: How do I counter the heals?
You'll find a lot of people in t1 have max potions, talismans etc. In this game going to run into a lot of gear imbalance, check the guy who killed you on the killboard and its very likely you never had a chance until you are best in slot
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