WL is probably the most broken class

[Rapzel]

https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/career/marauder check piercing bite tactic. Main argument is 25% pene on 2 aoe skills of WL? Mara have 25% on EVERY mutaded skill. But who cares right? Burn da witch (with cat)!!!!!1111

You realise we have simulations that confirm that the highest DPS on any melee career is WL right?

[Sever1n]

You realise we have simulations that confirm that the highest DPS on any melee career is WL right?

Thing that i asked in first place? Then send them to devs, im sure they will acounted if they are correct. Obviosly u counted even ap drainage, lvl of arp in both st and aoe specs, and remembered to compare utility (cos u surely realise DPS is not only factor that makes class OP) available to all mdps classes including bw ( i was on impresion they hit harder based on our warband stats, prob my mistake) and sork. TY for your job, i wish other classes had such hard analysis and maybe we finally cound compare them with full understanding and one day this game will be balanced. Im confused why your organisation didnt say a word about such hard everyday questions like sork disaster, kotbs 2h spec, existence of regen WE, or slay situation, and enlighten us with pure analysis ? Nvm, obviously (for some) WL is #1 issue. Do what must be done. Im finally ready to open my eyes and start to believe.

[Scragmuncher]

https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/career/marauder check piercing bite tactic. Main argument is 25% pene on 2 aoe skills of WL? Mara have 25% on EVERY mutaded skill. But who cares right? Burn da witch (with cat)!!!!!1111

You realise we have simulations that confirm that the highest DPS on any melee career is WL right?

Pretty sure msh with Winds came out on top.

[Sever1n]

Even with 25%armor pen tactic, mara do not even close to wl damage.

Rigth amount maras with good understanding can reduse WL dps to dust. Lion also not even close to amount of def mara have from aoe mutation buff. Such things should be considered or they insignificant?

And if only damage matters, do you know amount of it that WL should be dealing and its true place ingame?

[Ruin]

I really beleave that making WL even better AOEr than slayer was bad idea in general. With all the nerf hammers that slayer got over the years there is literaly no point to play slayer over WL anymore.

"Let's say the developers completely removed armor penetration for White Lion, what are you going to cry about next? Pounce? Let's say Pounce is also removed"
I don´t think it needs anything that drastic. First thing I would do is "spin to win Wirling axe" to be cone infront of player (I beleave its 180°) just like mara´s Wrecking ball. Now its 360°.
Hack and slash tactic. Either leave it as it is so it adds 25% aditive armor penetration, 15less AP for slashing blade, but add some trade off (-20% damage reduction for both slashing blade and WW axe for example)

Then you should consider removing all 360 skills from Melee specs that include Mara and Sh to.
We could also go even further and make all AOE a cone instead of 360?

Also they even things out with mara, by adding WL "50% crit DMG" regaldles if pet is alive/enabled

[Ruin]

Also i think ppl are looking at it without understanig the classes,

Both Whirling Axe and Wrecking Ball have the exatly same DMG formula, while Mara have additional 5 ft range over WL.

[Florian90210]

Like in every MMO there are disgusting smug face people who defend their OP thingy.

[wildwindblows]

Even with 25%armor pen tactic, mara do not even close to wl damage.

Rigth amount maras with good understanding can reduse WL dps to dust. Lion also not even close to amount of def mara have from aoe mutation buff. Such things should be considered or they insignificant?

And if only damage matters, do you know amount of it that WL should be dealing and its true place ingame?

İm talking about ST mara so i dont care monstro proc. WL and mara both are using medium armor. However WL doing 69%more average damage then mara.
WL is OP atm. İf you cannot see it, it is your problem. Just dont try to convince ppl for your selfish toughts.

[Sever1n]

Just dont try to convince ppl for your selfish toughts.

In which way they are selfish?

[cairlaith]

Even with 25%armor pen tactic, mara do not even close to wl damage.

Rigth amount maras with good understanding can reduse WL dps to dust. Lion also not even close to amount of def mara have from aoe mutation buff. Such things should be considered or they insignificant?

And if only damage matters, do you know amount of it that WL should be dealing and its true place ingame?

İm talking about ST mara so i dont care monstro proc. WL and mara both are using medium armor. However WL doing 69%more average damage then mara.
WL is OP atm. İf you cannot see it, it is your problem. Just dont try to convince ppl for your selfish toughts.

How did you come to the conclusion that Wl can deal 69% more damage than Mara, with which calculations and under what conditions? Just because you claim so, mathematic may not give the answer you hoped for.

Your problem is that you don't mention any of Mara's advantages but you only cry about Wl, you don't actually mention any of the advantages of the Destro side because you're Destro main players and you accuse us of being selfish. I have a White Lion character, but I don't even really care if it gets nerfed or not, I'm just wondering what you will cry about next after White Lion.