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Stinkyweed
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SH Knowledge Share

Post#1 » Wed Dec 23, 2015 8:34 pm

What build and play style is working for you? Any tips or tricks you recommend?

Current gear:
Dev head and shoulders, stalker chest, gloves, and feet.
Martial belt, grim cloak, and BS/AP jewels.
SC offensive weapons.
WS slotted in everything.
Renown is 30 in Crit and 10 in WS
+20AP/sec
25% crit w/ spike

Wants:
DEV 5pc proc to work
More WS

Skirmish build, 18PTS:
RunAway, DaWaagh, RottenArrer, SWW, BehindYa

I am really just playing a "hassle" build rather than a burst build right now because of T3 and armor values being lower. My preference is to drop QS to SWW, and pick up Aim Quick for burst. I have been too afraid to stop moving around so I have stuck with the full skirmish build for now. The most fun build IMO for killing is of course BS up to FeO, and take SWW and heal debuff when avail at higher ranks...but I just can't justify playing without the heal debuff for now. I do, at times, mess around with a completely defensive build and gear, toss on BadGas and surf into the order lines...but that is only fun when I am intoxicated.

Typical Rotation [situational in brackets]
YerBleedin, RottenArrer, [WhatBlocka], NotSoFast, RunNShoot

Special Actions based on target:
StopRunnin snare
ExplodinArrer for GCD independent burst/kill steal
LotsArrers for interrupt, sustain, and killing
BehindYa whenever avail.
Plink with either M2 in flight or LotsArrers in flight.

Recommendation:
Since /assist works gets LoyalPet to automatically move your pet to your target.
Always be prepared to Disarm and/or detaunt. Bind both those to an easy and quick access key.
Kite, prekite, and do what you can to keep distance between enemy and you.
As soon as you see a WL or WH target and annoy them. Eventually they are going to come after you, so you might as well give them good reason to!
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Zhentarim
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Post#2 » Thu Dec 31, 2015 1:51 pm

I've been running big shootin all the time just because of the big numbers, but I tried out the stabbin tree today and it was surprisingly a lot better than I expected. Running around and knocking down, disarming, increasing the cooldown timer while dealing good aoe damage is really fun! :mrgreen:

maltesa
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Post#3 » Thu Dec 31, 2015 1:59 pm

take the 30 points out of crit and capyour balitic instead and kite for your life

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mursie
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Post#4 » Thu Dec 31, 2015 3:11 pm

We're very similar stinky. But i managed to snag the brigand's cloak which has 4AP per sec and 24 ballistic.

I run your build and gear with 26% crit and 300 WS. Ballistic sits around 810ish. (my jewels are 15 bal/15 WS pieces)

If there is one major change I'm doing... it is as follows.

For sc group play - swap DaWaagh and slot StrengthinNumbas

Slot mushroom morale for M1. it's crazy, you will have both m1 and m2 always up on cooldown and constantly be able to use.

I also tend to try and burst without showing the rotation hand yet - (i.e. delaymy rottenarrer as it is a huge tipoff to my focus.) So i generally will: yerbleedin into what blocka into a plink/rottenarrer lotsa arrers/runshoot/behindya

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Stinkyweed
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Post#5 » Thu Dec 31, 2015 5:06 pm

Since the post I have dropped my crit to 15% with spiked, changed my bow, and am running 450ish WS.
Thanks for the tip on holding off on RottenArrer until I am ready to burst. I also didn't realize StrengthNumbas was working...thanks.
Stinkyweed SH - Prowl WE - Blob Chop - Babaganoush Sham - Fail CH - Negative Creep ZE - Brute BO - Motley Crue WH - Scratch WL

Don't fall asleep...don't fall asleep...
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Stinkyweed
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Post#6 » Thu Dec 31, 2015 5:12 pm

I have never really seen the benefit of capping BS. I used to have a spreadsheet where I could graph the sweetspot mix of BS/WS to max damage against Light/Med armored targets. ..unfortunately it's been long lost
My shoddy memory remembers 2/3rd BS and 1/3rd WS mix for cumulative BS and WS. So for 1500 points spread between BS/WS, the sweetspot is about 900/600. These number were for when rr80 was the cap and when we didn't have the bonus BS/WS tactic.
Stinkyweed SH - Prowl WE - Blob Chop - Babaganoush Sham - Fail CH - Negative Creep ZE - Brute BO - Motley Crue WH - Scratch WL

Don't fall asleep...don't fall asleep...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP7uxesyQWo

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eks
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Post#7 » Sat Jan 02, 2016 6:30 pm

Does anyone else use the range debuff? I know it's only 3sec but it sure seems to annoy the hell out of healers and RDPS.
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Euan
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Post#8 » Sat Jan 02, 2016 7:36 pm

I always played my Squig with Big shooting unless I was solo hunting. Usually a heal debuff is present with a melee dps.
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Post#9 » Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:55 pm

eks wrote:Does anyone else use the range debuff? I know it's only 3sec but it sure seems to annoy the hell out of healers and RDPS.
Anyone know if this effects Aoe heals too? I believe DaoC's nearsight did NOT effect them, but not sure here.

That aside, a range debuff is a huge tool. 3s uptime? But 5s recast. No Immunity.

So in light of that, I'm hoping to play with something like this:
http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=sh; ... ;;;0:0:0:0:

A utility oriented build for premades.


Still a point to spend, for 1s plink or speed buff.

Talents/morals are up in the air, as it's more dependent on what my friendlies/enemies are.
I can simply lock this thread and you guys will just have to deal with whatever ends up being implemented.

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Post#10 » Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:58 pm

I've been steadily increasing my armor at the sacrifice of ballistic skill since getting into T3. I started with like 21% Ss crit and soft cap BS. I'm down to about 650BS, 200WS, 4100 wounds, 1500 armor (maybe more armor with Gs it doesn't show on char screen) with pots. I've made a couple WH nemesis and 1500 armor is the only way I can get back up with around 50-70% HP. Once I get up I go squig armor, kd, sticky squigs, back to gobba and then kite. I save the disarm in case they get close again or getting close to death. With WL I just KD, disarm and pray I get help.
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