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havartii
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Ruin Priest

Post#1 » Tue May 06, 2025 1:31 am

I have a rr77 RP and just finally logged in after the changes. Conduits cost ap and less range is not something that feels good compared to the way it was. Great you made dps viable and now we will have less healers. Cool. And will take far more work to compete with WP heals. Well done I guess.
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Nameless
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Re: Ruin Priest

Post#2 » Tue May 06, 2025 6:26 am

Imo the new perks are not bad but the cost is much higher micromanagement which for me is not fun. Before even start you got constant marks/runs recast after each load, now you need to manage your rituals so less time for pre hots, xgroup heals and so on.
That kind of gameplay give more options group wise but imo is not fun so i dont play my rr86 zealot, neither my rr85 rp
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Post#3 » Tue May 06, 2025 12:42 pm

I have a completely different feeling.
My healing is better, I do more protection.
The shorter CD and duration is an advantage rather than a disadvantage.
Zealot is excellent.
The only thing to improve is RP Master Rune of Stability. I am considering whether to buy it.
It should be a cleanse every few sec or give snare immunity for the first slowdown.
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Re: Ruin Priest

Post#4 » Tue May 06, 2025 2:08 pm

Sorry that you feel that way. The new changes reflect the devs' philosophy that healers should have a more active play style compared to the previous version of runes.

In static defense play (e.g., holding a bo, keep, fort), your master rune heals got buffed and are better than zealot rituals. Your runes never end as long as you are within 150 ft and they now scale with your healing bonus. The small ap drain is negligible if you run decent healing gear, which comes with ap per second.

Your healing and utility actually got better for wb and small scale play too, but you will have to stay a bit closer to your allies. Having good positioning, situational awareness of the battlefield, and communications with your teammates (e.g., being on discord and knowing when to cast certain runes) have become even more important to succeeding on the battlefield as a rune priest. Happy to log on my order alt and talk you through these concepts in depth if it helps.

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Re: Ruin Priest

Post#5 » Wed May 07, 2025 6:57 am

I can say 1 thing, why Zealot now gives +10% critical chance for entire group but RP may not?

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Post#6 » Wed May 07, 2025 9:23 am

Battlefield wrote: Wed May 07, 2025 6:57 am I can say 1 thing, why Zealot now gives +10% critical chance for entire group but RP may not?
IF devs fix/rework RP Master Rune of Stability will be fine and equal.
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Re: Ruin Priest

Post#7 » Wed May 07, 2025 11:50 am

Battlefield wrote: Wed May 07, 2025 6:57 am I can say 1 thing, why Zealot now gives +10% critical chance for entire group but RP may not?

10% buff for groupmates within 50ft of the ritual, for the 10 seconds that it's active every half a minute

SnB Kotbs' Dirty tricks will result in near-perfect uptime of a 5% buff for all groupmates within 100ft.


RP got defensive buffs on his Master Rune of Adamant while Zealot got offensive ones.

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Ruin
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Re: Ruin Priest

Post#8 » Wed May 07, 2025 12:42 pm

didin't Zeal got Crit chance, so that inclueds Crit heal to, that is defencive for me, and its not chance to proc but constant, this vs strange area chance (chance becous of range and some slow durations are less than 5 sec like Squig goo, so you cant predict or plan it) to clense is not equaly beneficial.

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Re: Ruin Priest

Post#9 » Wed May 07, 2025 12:53 pm

Ruin wrote: Wed May 07, 2025 12:42 pm didin't Zeal got Crit chance, so that inclueds Crit heal to, that is defencive for me, and its not chance to proc but constant, this vs strange area chance (chance becous of range and some slow durations are less than 5 sec like Squig goo, so you cant predict or plan it) to clense is not equaly beneficial.

Yes, generic crit also affects heal crit (same as Dirty Tricks buff). However, since you are incentivized to have proper positioning as a healer, you will rarely get the Ritual Nexus within 50 ft of you. It will be placed near the tanks and dps and from healers basically only DOKs should ideally be within 50ft of it.
The same goes for all Ritual/Master Runes of course; 50 ft is quite limiting.

As for comparing them, they are not meant to be compared 1 to 1 (besides the AP Ritual/Master Rune).
  • RP gets an out-of-party heal (that can proc Blessing of Grungi, Ancestor's Echo, etc.) on all people healed and a periodic cleanse for groupmates, within 50ft.
  • ZL gets a 10% generic crit buff (doesn't stack with Boost procs) and a 1-time damage proc for groupmates, within 50ft.
  • RP gets a snare cleanse and a big TOU buff for groupmates, within 50ft.
  • ZL gets an out-of-party absorb shield on all people affected and a smaller periodic absorb shield for groupmates, within 50ft.
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Ruin
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Re: Ruin Priest

Post#10 » Wed May 07, 2025 12:57 pm

BTW Sry for OoC, any idea if the builder will be updated?

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