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Jinxypie
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Pls enlight me

Post#1 » Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:53 am

What makes wps/doks so OP that they cant use aoe detaunt like other healers. Yeah there was a plan to make them melee healers and bound aoe detaunt just to dualwield, but thats clearly light years ahead, so why to keep them gimped till the magic finally happen. I just cant get it. Shamy/AM can cast everything on the go, zealot can spam flashes for 1k while running as well(all of them with aoe detaunt ability and other range tools) while WP/dok can mostly just bent over or beg for guard and heals from everybody around to be able move his arse away. :?:
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Post#2 » Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:09 am

Its The Amor! The back line Rolf heal Doks + wps grp Spam 4k, Amor aoe detaunt where massiv to easy and to good compare to other healers.
But i have to say am shammy heal needs a nerf too But thats a Personal opinion en
The only healer with aoe detaunt is am shammy btw. Runie and Zealot dont have it too
The aoe detaunt with dual Wield was meant for Front line meele healers
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Morthar
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Re: Pls enlight me

Post#3 » Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:10 am

and zealot have no aoe detaunt btw
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Post#4 » Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:14 am

Armor? My zealot sits at 3,7k armor with prolly double of my doks ressists. And yes he does have aoe detaunt. 3m cd tho.

edit: well its technically not detaunt, but it makes it even better-flat 50%dmg reduction from everyone.
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Post#5 » Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:16 am

thats not a detaunt its a dmg reduce mate ;D if you think zealot ist op play your zealot ;)
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Post#6 » Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:23 am

Morthar wrote:thats not a detaunt its a dmg reduce mate ;D if you think zealot ist op play your zealot ;)
point is.. Dok has none of it atm + he just cant kite heal. And i dont think zealot is OP, i think dok lacks badly compared to him or shammy atm. Have all of them and still somehow love the dok theme most, but it makes me cry inside everytime i think about what could i do on my zealot or shamy compared to him.
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Post#7 » Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:34 am

the problem is, when wp/dok have the aoe detaunt he can tank 2-3 dps :) i thinkt when the dok becames a taktik like the shaman with 25% its ok, but 50% + armor + short heal cast time is hard to kill.

you can try it at balance forum, then you became maybe a aoe detaunt as a heal dok ;)

i wish you good luck
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Post#8 » Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:48 am

Spamable aoe detaunt was probably too strong, but 1min cd with the cost of tactic slot for O-s**t button like every other healer has would be nice.
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Post#9 » Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:49 am

@OP
WP/dok AOE detaunt uptime: 100%
AM/shaman AOE detaunt uptime: 33.3%
RP/zealot AOE detaunt uptime: 5.5%

Furthermore the classes can't be directly compared because, for instance, the WP/dok single target detaunt is changed via tactic to get AOE range.

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Post#10 » Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:51 am

Luth wrote:@OP
WP/dok AOE detaunt uptime: 100%
AM/shaman AOE detaunt uptime: 33.3%
RP/zealot AOE detaunt uptime: 5.5%

Furthermore the classes can't be directly compared because, for instance, the WP/dok single target detaunt is changed via tactic to get AOE range.
agree on that, but atm its like this:
AM/shaman AOE detaunt uptime: 33.3%
RP/zealot AOE detaunt uptime: 5.5%
WP/dok AOE detaunt uptime: 0% while unable to kite heal, stagger or 40%snare.
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