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Engineer vs Magus crit tactic problem

Post#1 » Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:19 pm

I am surprised why nobody talk about it(especially Magus players), because i see huge disbalance here.

I have both classes 80 rr+, let me explain:

Engi: +15% crit tactic works for all trees/abilities and its only 1 tactic slot

Magus: Crit tactic works only for 1 tree, so if you want use tactics from left/mid trees , you need to use 2 tactic slots(and there no crit tactic for right tree).
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Re: Engineer vs Magus crit tactic problem

Post#2 » Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:24 pm

aa91837 wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:19 pm
I am surprised why nobody talk about it(especially Magus players), because i see huge disbalance here.

I have both classes 80 rr+, let me explain:

Engi: +15% crit tactic works for all trees/abilities and its only 1 tactic slot

Magus: Crit tactic works only for 1 tree, so if you want use tactics from left/mid trees , you need to use 2 tactic slots(and there no crit tactic for right tree).
Engineer crit tactic requires you to have a pet, be near the pet, and you have to spend 11-points in Tinkerer - a largely useless tree if you are ST DPS; it's a fair trade-off.

Right doesn't need a crit tactic when you have Surging Power letting Infernal Blast crit for 1k+, lol.
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Re: Engineer vs Magus crit tactic problem

Post#3 » Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:26 pm

Magus tactic is better, thats why Magus players dont talk about it. So stop it now :D
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Re: Engineer vs Magus crit tactic problem

Post#4 » Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:04 pm

Hahaha "SMACK"

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Re: Engineer vs Magus crit tactic problem

Post#5 » Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:25 pm

Magus have a crit damage tactic. Thats why Magus wont discuss the subject.

Engi snipe ability, critical hit for 1500 if the target is REALLY squishie.
Magus snipe ability, critical hit for 2.5-3k. Crit damage tactic + Spiritual vs physical damage.

No, magus players wont talk about engineers.

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Re: Engineer vs Magus crit tactic problem

Post#6 » Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:28 pm

Parallell86 wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:25 pm
Magus have a crit damage tactic. Thats why Magus wont discuss the subject.

Engi snipe ability, critical hit for 1500 if the target is REALLY squishie.
Magus snipe ability, critical hit for 2.5-3k. Crit damage tactic + Spiritual vs physical damage.

No, magus players wont talk about engineers.
Engi is a better class with faster burst. I've got a 2900k snipe just the other day, in fact. Yes, it is usually lower than magus but the focused fire finisher is CORE and hits every 1 second vs IFOC which hits every 2 and is a 13 pt ability. I'd say that is MORE than a fair trade off.

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Re: Engineer vs Magus crit tactic problem

Post#7 » Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:32 pm

Tankbeardz wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:28 pm
Parallell86 wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:25 pm
Magus have a crit damage tactic. Thats why Magus wont discuss the subject.

Engi snipe ability, critical hit for 1500 if the target is REALLY squishie.
Magus snipe ability, critical hit for 2.5-3k. Crit damage tactic + Spiritual vs physical damage.

No, magus players wont talk about engineers.
Engi is a better class with faster burst. I've got a 2900k snipe just the other day, in fact. Yes, it is usually lower than magus but the focused fire finisher is CORE and hits every 1 second vs IFOC which hits every 2 and is a 13 pt ability. I'd say that is MORE than a fair trade off.
I have never seen a 2.9k Snipe on my rr 60+ Engi. In fact, before I gave up on him, I hit a zealot, none crit, no guard in range, for 400 damage.

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Re: Engineer vs Magus crit tactic problem

Post#8 » Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:32 pm

Tankbeardz wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:28 pm
Parallell86 wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:25 pm
Magus have a crit damage tactic. Thats why Magus wont discuss the subject.

Engi snipe ability, critical hit for 1500 if the target is REALLY squishie.
Magus snipe ability, critical hit for 2.5-3k. Crit damage tactic + Spiritual vs physical damage.

No, magus players wont talk about engineers.
Engi is a better class with faster burst. I've got a 2900k snipe just the other day, in fact. Yes, it is usually lower than magus but the focused fire finisher is CORE and hits every 1 second vs IFOC which hits every 2 and is a 13 pt ability. I'd say that is MORE than a fair trade off.
This ^

Both classes are potent in the right hands, and are very similar, with some variances in AoE, on-demand spike, etc. but on the whole, they're good mirrors.

Please don't bring that realm bias crap over to these classes.
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Re: Engineer vs Magus crit tactic problem

Post#9 » Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:39 pm

Parallell86 wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:32 pm
Tankbeardz wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:28 pm
Parallell86 wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:25 pm
Magus have a crit damage tactic. Thats why Magus wont discuss the subject.

Engi snipe ability, critical hit for 1500 if the target is REALLY squishie.
Magus snipe ability, critical hit for 2.5-3k. Crit damage tactic + Spiritual vs physical damage.

No, magus players wont talk about engineers.
Engi is a better class with faster burst. I've got a 2900k snipe just the other day, in fact. Yes, it is usually lower than magus but the focused fire finisher is CORE and hits every 1 second vs IFOC which hits every 2 and is a 13 pt ability. I'd say that is MORE than a fair trade off.
I have never seen a 2.9k Snipe on my rr 60+ Engi. In fact, before I gave up on him, I hit a zealot, none crit, no guard in range, for 400 damage.
Then you were detaunted AND/OR not managing your damage stacks OR there was an absorb shied up OR you aren't very high in your tree, OR you aren't maxed on ballistic with a fair amount of weapon skill. There is also the 25% armor pen ability they added. There are lots of unknowns in your statement.
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Re: Engineer vs Magus crit tactic problem

Post#10 » Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:42 pm

Parallell86 wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:32 pm

I have never seen a 2.9k Snipe on my rr 60+ Engi. In fact, before I gave up on him, I hit a zealot, none crit, no guard in range, for 400 damage.
Ive hit 2.1K before with snipe but that was because he was some lowbie fresh outta T1 player with bad gear
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