wonshot wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:48 pm
madrocks wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:24 pm
A whooole lot of emotion
So you disagree, cool. Why exactly?
As you judge me in this topic, ill judge you just the same way. You are a pug warbandleader who previously have been leading via typing ingame commands and relying on macroes. Probably got a negativ trackrecord vs discord-warbands and therefor tries to downplay any coordination used in guildwarbands.
Welcome to the scene buddy, got any arguements you would like to present, the mic is yours (not litterally, we can type as you prefer)
lol, Bombling. Sorry not sorry you misunderstood my Destro biased humor towards easy-mode-play-style.
PUG war-band leader indeed. 3fg 2/2/2 setups + notorious p4 without healer. Positive "trackrecord" occasionally rolling over organized ones.
Yeah.. "welcome to the scene, buddy". \o/
Remove the unnecessary Sorc M2 mirror. Massively Nerf Solarflare or remove it. And put a knockback immunity on the last tick of Winds of Insanity. Something like this would make for much more enjoyable even numbers competitive fighting both in the open but also in keepsieges. While I do know I have some Order Bias, I have also done my fair share of playing against really good Destro premade guilds, and played some Destro warband comps myself. I am no expert, but ive been around for quite some time and seen what works and what is just anti-fun.
As said, I disagree with the end of your topic.
Why should removing the 30ft aoe m2 tool of a kiting/brawler class from one realm help to balance "winning conditions" in a 24vs24 environment in whom the other realm still has it?
So what shall Destro do then when they meet a full assumed cookie cutter Order bombing warband in your fictional 24vs24 without sorcs that run aoe m2. Kite and prey for snares, disrupts and heals?
It seems like to me that you drop a captain obvious text-bomb about career builder cookie setups to justify yet another Destro nerf.
KOTBS Solar Flare should not be in-game in the first place without giving Destro the same ability.
Order biased alright.
Since I am at it now...
So how come Destro have more availability than Order does? Cant sorcs Bomb just as well as BW?
Yes and No.
Funnel power is a huge part of the difference between Sorc and BW aoe output. And without diving too deep into what makes either classes better, both have the capability to become the only DPS class you slot for a 24man Bombwarband. However...
Since Order dont have a functioning AoE build that is competitive on the Meleedps classes apart from slayers (WH, WL, ASW) Order competitive compesitions will 9/10 times look heavily stacked with just two AoE-dps classes: BW & Slayer.
Since this is the Meta and Go-to for Order, is now becomes fairly Easy for any competitive Destro Warbandbuilder to put together a counter setup, and that leads me to the actual winconditions.
So.. the disability of thinking out of the box and include other Order classes in the warband is the reason for the so called "Go-to Meta" ? It certainly is the reason Order are that predictable on the battlefield. You would think Chinesehero and The Eternal Host are the only ones stepping out of that 2009 bullshit.
Race the BW M2 drop with the Mirrored M2 drop on Sorc
Morale draining Maras sitting on top of BWs to drain, while building towards M2 and dropping morales first
Blackorc self-morale pumping and reaching M3 to aoe silence the BW ball for 5sec (can be combined with Shaman grouppump)
Zealot Winds of Insanity no knockback immunity displacement on the BW ball.
Mara AoE knockdown on the BW ball to stop the BW-selfpump
Undefendable choppapulls (can be mixed for great destro amusement after a full Zealot channel)
There is no race. BW bombing is superior to Sorc bombing. BW has instacast tactic on disrupt (bugged btw). BW has 5% Crit increase from Kotbs tactic, BW has wound superiority from WP. BW have also red hair and we all know what that means!
Marauder takes a dps/Sorc M2 spot, for a proper marauder directional m2 you need a shaman moral pump, a shaman takes the place of Zealot or DOK, no zealot means that the group is not that tanky, no dok means the group lacks of covenant. It's a clear trade off for a 25% chance on defensible moral remove.
Zealot Winds of Insanity is a good thing. You have other goodies on Order to counter that, again.. think out of the box.
If the zealot survives the punting channeling, you did something wrong in the first place. The zealot takes a spot in the warband too, how about you take something with you in your warband to counter it? Do you even have a warband? Yeah.. I thought so.
"Undefendable choppapulls": so stagger, silence, mara KD and PUGs don't spread immunity right?
Wanna talk about Engi rift vs Magus rift; Dodge vs. Disrupt?