Where does a Black Ork fit in now??

[kirraha]

give thc back to snb and make mor ardcore a long punt
or just do something about that toughness buff. if it was init or reduced armour pen or reduced dmg/crit dmg it would be great, but toughness is a weak stat to just scatter around. you need 700/800 to make it useful and this buff wouldn't help most of your groupmates get near that. at best you're saving a chosen aura

it will not work with the chosens aura and it's basically always around so that toughness buff on BO side is completely useless imo.
The Ws is only useful for some dps aswell, not useful for entire party at all

[Duukar]

Everything isn't about beeing meta. I only strapped on a shield while doing cities/forts anyway and had no intention to continue doing cities with off sov and wl done. The ability to get into city wbs certainly changed but still all wbs need tanks and only a few wbs are super fussy about exact composition (tbh this change is worse for shamans/msh which relied on cd decreaser). Roaming the lakes in a small group as 2h hasn't changed. Still fun to be had.

If roaming is they only thing u wanna do it's fine, but last week we also had skull thumper nerfed. me bo feelz saad!

Don't get me wrong, the BO for sure needs a st punt and some new snb utility. Gameplay hasn't changed tho, beeing a waagh-bot wasn't particularly fun. I never liked the concept of cd decreasers so will be happy for some other utility. That they replaced it what that uther trash tactic tho is mindboggling.

We definitely need a LONG single target punt. We definitely need some utility to replace what has been lost in SnB.. We need a lot of work now where before they could have just mirrored WAAHHHGGG to SMs and be done with it..

Instead they took WAHHHGGGG buffed it and handed it to SMs while stripping us of anything that made us unique or worth bringing to most content aside from PvE....

[aa91837]

Where does a Black Ork fit in now??

trash can

[Duukar]

Where does a Black Ork fit in now??

trash can

Maybe you are right.. It will sit next to RoR in the trashcan on my desktop.

[Lokiusus]

Long punt tactic and a mirror to the SM's "Wings of Heaven" M1 would've made these nerfs easier to swallow.

Dunno why they continue to refuse to mirror over such a massive warband and roaming M1 for SM.

[nonfactor]

u are mad to propose a single target punt without sm getting one as well

[Nekkma]

u are mad to propose a single target punt without sm getting one as well

The already have a decent one (only in snb but still) but yes, st punt is a core tank skill and should imo be avliable to all tanks in both 2h and snb.

[Duukar]

u are mad to propose a single target punt without sm getting one as well

Sm just got a MASSIVE buff!! I'm not feeling generous at all and could literally not care less what happens for SM after all this..

I also play an SM.......

Blork needs major work because the one trick pony has LOST its trick!!

[ChicagoJoe]

Amended previous post. BO's morale to m4 in 60 secs nerf was probably enough.

[agemennon675]

SnB BO is still a better pick for the 2nd tank spot than the SnB BG for any warband, 4x knight/chosen is baseline for both realms, so the leftover 2 tanks compete, before the changes BG had 0 chance to get picked over a BO, do you think your fellow BG players were so much happy ? You are overreacting a bit and BO still offer morale pump+m3, Da Greenest, Rock Ard both BG and chosen does not.