[Sorcerer] Hand of Ruin

[murmelon]

Does Hand of Ruin need to balance with Withering Heat or not? How it is balanced now,what do you think?

Disscussion about heal debuf and knock down is not here.

[Scrilian]

Love the isolated view of the situation.
Well, providing having an extra great dot in the form of Absorb Vitality and the later down the line access to Echo of Power - Sorc burst is far superior with a core disarm, while BW provides much more utility in the forms of a stun, which is better, and healdebuff.

[talissera]

Hand of ruin is preferable in terms of more strict ticks. Disorient seems more viable especially against healers and other sorcs/brights.

[talissera]

Love the isolated view of the situation.
Sorc burst is far superior with a core disarm

WAT? What the connection between burst and disarm?

[Scrilian]

Love the isolated view of the situation.
Sorc burst is far superior with a core disarm

WAT? What the connection between burst and disarm?

There is none, just mentioned having it core.

[Cimba]

There isn't really anything to balance here. If you do the common dot rotation your target is either dead or snared for both bw and sorc.

The disorient is virtually useless because of it's short duration. I mean a 2 sec cast for 3 sec duration? Sure you can use it for the effect but than you somewhat waste the potential of the class. Aside from that, if you drop someone to 20% life they won't stand around and pull out their 2-3 sec casts.

[Landaren]

Personally once hor is cast my target is dead 90% of the time

Dead is the best snare in the game

[Atropik]

Love the isolated view of the situation.
Well, providing having an extra great dot in the form of Absorb Vitality and the later down the line access to Echo of Power - Sorc burst is far superior with a core disarm, while BW provides much more utility in the forms of a stun, which is better, and healdebuff.

ohh, you know nothing John Snow.
AV, echo of lolpower, core disarm, these are the same crap as healdebuff for BW.

[Scrilian]

Love the isolated view of the situation.
Well, providing having an extra great dot in the form of Absorb Vitality and the later down the line access to Echo of Power - Sorc burst is far superior with a core disarm, while BW provides much more utility in the forms of a stun, which is better, and healdebuff.

ohh, you know nothing John Snow.
AV, echo of lolpower, core disarm, these are the same crap as healdebuff for BW.

I find it hard to see the point of your post, Hodor

[Atropik]

Love the isolated view of the situation.
Well, providing having an extra great dot in the form of Absorb Vitality and the later down the line access to Echo of Power - Sorc burst is far superior with a core disarm, while BW provides much more utility in the forms of a stun, which is better, and healdebuff.

I find it hard to see the point of your post, Hodor

Okay, full not isolated view then,
- AV is a great dot for t3 only
- Echo of power, well, should be removed from the game
- Core disarm useful against SW and slayer only
- sorc burst far superior with ID and gloomburst having spiritual damage
- while BW provides much more utility in the forms of a stun/fbb, undefendeable PI, cleanse, HoF M3

And about HoR, 100ft range snare for 3 seconds, it is about kite, bite, and dismount, I guess not about killing