Changelog 23rd May, 2016

[szejoza]

I dont say i should.
But you understand that many people did, and took already their gear.
While others did not.
oh,btw the stealth fixes should be mentioned somewhere(but i guess thats the way it goes).
I dont like to be rude to devs, their job is good.
I just dont get it sometimes where they want to go, towards which philosophy.

It must be destro PQ as, while I play order I haven't encountered any PQ in T4 that could be soloed (even as a tank) or I am blind

So well, another ruin wipe (I would support it even if it was on order side)

[C4init3]

Thanks for the update! Although now that BO capturing and holding awards medallions and I suppose influence as well, but these rewards are only claimed upon zone take, right? And still, the BO defending/roaming party will forfeit the chance to roll for keep bags, or am I misunderstanding something? Lets be real, the real goodies are in keep bags, so while I cheer for the changes implemented, I think the incentive is still to be at the keep.

[Linkganon]

Great changes, I see a lot of the suggestions I and others made were heard, which is reassuring! Nice to see siege equipment being tailored to its proper use.

As has been mentioned above, I still think people will be unlikely to forego a chance at a bag to go and save a BO. Haven't tested / observed any T4 oRvR yet since the change, will update this post later.

EDIT: Not been able to actually test any of the changes because the masses are incapable of rubbing two brain cells together in order to actually coordinate themselves. The same ping-ponging is happening as was before the patch, so it really isn't the investment/reward balance. Frustratingly it's because people are too stupid to actually complete the objective.

[stillwaterww]

I approve these changes Nice work

[szejoza]

Thanks for the update! Although now that BO capturing and holding awards medallions and I suppose influence as well, but these rewards are only claimed upon zone take, right? And still, the BO defending/roaming party will forfeit the chance to roll for keep bags, or am I misunderstanding something? Lets be real, the real goodies are in keep bags, so while I cheer for the changes implemented, I think the incentive is still to be at the keep.

I guess we'll see mentality of some players here. I'm the type of player that goes for sure-to-have 2 medalions rather than rush to keep to try my chances against 60 other player over one/two bag with goodies. Still, would love to have accesories from other bags so I guess I'll have to take a go at keeps anyways sometime in my ror career.

I like that change

[charlysixb]

So well, another ruin wipe (I would support it even if it was on order side)

Adding ya to my own book of grudges

[Styrkarr]

You forgot to mention that you changed the PQ -Battle of Averith.
Now the final mob spawns as a HERO. So you made this PQ impossible to solo.

So even harder to get the Ruin set, which is adequate for a lvl 40 tank. Like it was easy to get it and all tanks had it.

What is the puprose of this? The gear should be from PvP hard to get, Pve should give you something to be "just ok" for PvP.

And ofcourse you dont refer it to the changelog.

You really think that the stage 3 NPC of a Hard PQ is a weak npc ? It was supposed to be a Hero since the beginning but it was not i don't know why. So I fixed it. The PQ is now as it should be.

[Natherul]

Thanks for the update! Although now that BO capturing and holding awards medallions and I suppose influence as well, but these rewards are only claimed upon zone take, right? And still, the BO defending/roaming party will forfeit the chance to roll for keep bags, or am I misunderstanding something? Lets be real, the real goodies are in keep bags, so while I cheer for the changes implemented, I think the incentive is still to be at the keep.

People at BO will forfeit the chance for a bag at keep yes BUT a keep bag is not a guarantee so if there is a lot of players at keep you might want to go to BOs as then you are guaranteed to get something (your not at the keep)

[Linkganon]

Thanks for the update! Although now that BO capturing and holding awards medallions and I suppose influence as well, but these rewards are only claimed upon zone take, right? And still, the BO defending/roaming party will forfeit the chance to roll for keep bags, or am I misunderstanding something? Lets be real, the real goodies are in keep bags, so while I cheer for the changes implemented, I think the incentive is still to be at the keep.

People at BO will forfeit the chance for a bag at keep yes BUT a keep bag is not a guarantee so if there is a lot of players at keep you might want to go to BOs as then you are guaranteed to get something (your not at the keep)

Unfortunately, the average person does not think like this, and with the zerg mentality that people have in oRvR, I don't think this incentive will be enough.

[Natherul]

Thanks for the update! Although now that BO capturing and holding awards medallions and I suppose influence as well, but these rewards are only claimed upon zone take, right? And still, the BO defending/roaming party will forfeit the chance to roll for keep bags, or am I misunderstanding something? Lets be real, the real goodies are in keep bags, so while I cheer for the changes implemented, I think the incentive is still to be at the keep.

People at BO will forfeit the chance for a bag at keep yes BUT a keep bag is not a guarantee so if there is a lot of players at keep you might want to go to BOs as then you are guaranteed to get something (your not at the keep)

Unfortunately, the average person does not think like this, and with the zerg mentality that people have in oRvR, I don't think this incentive will be enough.

Its not all about incentive (in my opinion), its about not shafting the players going for the BOs which is a valid strategy for taking the zone at all.

If players would rather not take a zone and/or not get anything as you did not win a roll at keep then so be it

EDIT: and tbh i think modern MMOs give way too much for doing certain things, and I personally would be perfectly happy to sometimes not get a chance for a bag at keep if I helped lock a zone by defending a BO.

EDIT2: also the zone locks inf and RP gain should be enough of an incentive, especially when more and more RR will be unlocked (eventually)