Congrats Destro, You win.

[NoRKaLKiLLa]

Pug guilds is any oxymoron brah

[killimandros]

pug guild is as I use the term a guild which doesnt have any real wvw purpose. More a socially knitted together group of individuals more or less interested in wvw and at occational times. I believe there are a number of guilds on both sides which fits into that description But lets focus a bit on how the situation can be eased up, which would in turn make wvw more interesting BOTH for destro and order Order needs some dedicated pug warband leaders. Someone recognized as being dedicated and managing at least objects to a certain degree. At the same time order needs to tighten up. One thing is snaking, but as the demon before me pointed out, if a BO is burning and a PUG "jesus" is demanding a group to go and defend it, said BO must be retaken. Maybe it is because morale is so low any obstacle becomes impossible to pass for the pugs of order, I dont know really. I also believe those interested in doing wvw at order side a bit more than occationally should try to gather into some alliance or preferrably into at least one or two major wvw guilds. A guild of two with at least 3 full groups can actually turn the tide. Destro arent THAT numerous either, but it is a matter of organization and dedication. It cooks down to order NEEDs to organize themselves or its gonna go downhill...Maybe some destro guilds who like the idea of being the underdog would consider changing side?

[NoRKaLKiLLa]

Honestly if someone would be willing to power level an Order character with me I'd step up to the plate and try to rally order into an offensive and strategic posture. Half of destruction thinks I bark orders selfishly anyway.

[Zaxxond]

Honestly if someone would be willing to power level an Order character with me I'd step up to the plate and try to rally order into an offensive and strategic posture. Half of destruction thinks I bark orders selfishly anyway.

Done. What do you want to roll? We could use a good tank with +100 charisma to charm the pugs. Whatever you want I will level you.

[Fexxe]

Well just rolled 3 order chars with me and 2 friends. Hope that will help, and so far in T1 and T2 I have seen pretty good coop in the order warbands. But hey, if they Desto guilds are more organised or are just outnumbering the Order side, then there isn't anything 3 people can do, other than Try.