Overarching balance changes

[Penril]

Why won't this thread die?

Is the server up? If so yeah, lock this. If not... this is something fun to do while we wait

[Tankbeardz]

Burst kills. End of story.

[Jaycub]

BTW, what do you think about my Dhar Wind/Meltdown suggestion? If it buffed heals on you by, say, 15% for 10 seconds (at full Combustion) wouldn't you use it when being focused?

I think more people would def be dumping rage if that where the case.

BW is a tricky case tho, it's universally hated by casuals and pugs. Extremely poweful in ORvR. But falls off in the smaller scale and is dimished even more by things organized groups make used of (proper gaurd swap, group cleanse, focus on pulls on and morale roots etc...)

[grumcajs]

making their mechanic drawback to be on same level as rewards isnt nerf. its called balance. hard to explain to BW player I guess. but it was always hard to nail it to their heads when all they can do is just to avoid direct answers and come with inrelevant excuses.

no point to argue with these when they do not see the bigger picture

Why does a risk reward mechanic NEED to be balanced though? Like I said what is that going to accomplish balance wise for the class or game as a whole? Do BW/Sorc need to be more squishy?

choppa is squishy, WH is squishy, SW is squishy .... all things die without guard,heal and cleanse when focused.

trying to argue BW are squishy is kinda meh

Look - +35% crit chance, another +100% increased crit dmg ; and again - there wont be TB here!!!

Im not talking about more squishy (in terms of making BW/sorc insta kill target)...just something like was posted on official forums before they tried to balance it by TB thus nerfing dmg of all classes, not just BW/sorc (and as Penril mentioned) - heal debuff based on higher levels, reduced mitigation,reduced wounds,increased crit taken (these arent my ideas. these were mentioned by other players).

And here we are ladies and gentlemen!!! Casuals and pugs are comming back to the scene!!!

[grumcajs]

Why won't this thread die?

Is the server up? If so yeah, lock this. If not... this is something fun to do while we wait

this

its the thread that kept me "busy" for almost whole my time in the work

[sanii]

choppa is squishy, WH is squishy, SW is squishy .... all things die without guard,heal and cleanse when focused.

trying to argue BW are squishy is kinda meh

Choppa has medium armor and mechanic can be dumped to gain back defense ,Slayer has armor tactic
WH/WE have MUCH higher parry rates then casters
SW has a mechanic where he can gain +100% armor when he wants to
and to top it off EVERY melee dps has aoe detaunt , which when your tank is punted and properly timed is working like a temporary guard replacement , unlike range dps which is stuck at a 1 target limit detaunt

[Jaycub]

Those classes have things like aoe detaunt, self punts, medium armor, armor increase mechanics, higher natural parry/avoidance. defensive morales etc...

>trying to argue BW are squishy is kinda meh

They are literally bottom rung with sorc for easiest class to kill.

[grumcajs]

ok sorry. I had no idea I can play my choppa without guard and survive when focused even without heals and cleanse ...

looks like I have a still much to learn

btw are you still talking from 6v6 PM pov?

[sanii]

ok sorry. I had no idea I can play my choppa without guard and survive when focused even without heals and cleanse ...

Nice strawmanning

[bloodi]

no point to argue with these when they do not see the bigger picture