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Re: WHY ARE SHAMANS SO OP?

Post#11 » Tue Jul 18, 2017 3:48 am

Arteker616 wrote:
wargrimnir wrote:One of the things waiting on the patcher.
is this a confirmation of a incoming shaman nerf?
I'm sure some will see it that way. Locking in the ex mode and making a few sanity tweaks. Some changes that give inventive to the multiple playstyles intended for the class without giving access to all of them simultaneously.
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Re: WHY ARE SHAMANS SO OP?

Post#12 » Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:13 am

This must be a troll threat why tf would shammy need nerf over any damn order class, only reason destro gets nerfed is because theres way more order than destro and they like to cry they're so use to just rolling over people and hitting 1 button that when they die it's because the other side is too OP what a fkn joke! and how about we bring back run away waste of a tactic slot **** dont even proc anymore. see more proc's off a 5% chance wounds increase on weapon. how about you try balancing orvr overall sick of these whinging order zerg bots!

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Re: WHY ARE SHAMANS SO OP?

Post#13 » Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:17 am

Muh crit stacking!
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Re: WHY ARE SHAMANS SO OP?

Post#14 » Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:25 am

ella wrote:This must be a troll threat why tf would shammy need nerf over any damn order class, only reason destro gets nerfed is because theres way more order than destro and they like to cry they're so use to just rolling over people and hitting 1 button that when they die it's because the other side is too OP what a fkn joke! and how about we bring back run away waste of a tactic slot **** dont even proc anymore. see more proc's off a 5% chance wounds increase on weapon. how about you try balancing orvr overall sick of these whinging order zerg bots!
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Re: WHY ARE SHAMANS SO OP?

Post#15 » Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:26 am

dansari wrote:Muh crit stacking!
you dont have to stack crit to not run out of ap on AM, tactic and gear it enough paired with wild healing and restorative burst and your golden.

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Re: WHY ARE SHAMANS SO OP?

Post#16 » Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:35 am

The open complaining of one individual with no supportive evidence is not the commitment of a nerf, furthermore there will always be classes that out-perform in certain situations, which lead to threads like this.
The over performing of classes in certain specific situations is less of a concern because balance should and to the best intentions and attempts, revolves around group based play styles and synergies. (I am going to get trolled for this comment)
The shaman does not have issues with gimping multiple play styles, but rather like the AM, has a few, identified, over performing attributes.
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Re: WHY ARE SHAMANS SO OP?

Post#17 » Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:02 am

wargrimnir wrote:
Arteker616 wrote:
wargrimnir wrote:One of the things waiting on the patcher.
is this a confirmation of a incoming shaman nerf?
I'm sure some will see it that way. Locking in the ex mode and making a few sanity tweaks. Some changes that give inventive to the multiple playstyles intended for the class without giving access to all of them simultaneously.
I thought you guys would just add an ability that allows you to swap your Waaagh! from Gork to Mork to Gork, so that you don't get locked out of healing or dealing support damage. I'll Take That! helps when healing, but it forces you to go within firing range...and there's really no way to effectively get out of healing mode when trying to deal damage.

That said...lifetaps are the main issue as they are hard to balance. You can still heal for an adequate amount with I'll Take That! when in Divine Fury...

That that said...I hope you guys integrate the morale animations into your changes- it's sad to see such great effects go to waste because the generic morales are a better option.
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Re: WHY ARE SHAMANS SO OP?

Post#18 » Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:55 am

ella wrote:This must be a troll threat why tf would shammy need nerf over any damn order class, only reason destro gets nerfed is because theres way more order than destro and they like to cry they're so use to just rolling over people and hitting 1 button that when they die it's because the other side is too OP what a fkn joke! and how about we bring back run away waste of a tactic slot **** dont even proc anymore. see more proc's off a 5% chance wounds increase on weapon. how about you try balancing orvr overall sick of these whinging order zerg bots!

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Re: WHY ARE SHAMANS SO OP?

Post#19 » Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:26 am

And AM need a boost...poor AM!
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Re: WHY ARE SHAMANS SO OP?

Post#20 » Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:52 am

Why the h... would you make .ab ex in the first place then? First to buff it, then adjust it, then nerf the class. :roll: :lol: I love what you guys did to Shammy and Am. Keep it like that IMHO.

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