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Re: Patch Notes 21/10/17

Post#131 » Tue Oct 24, 2017 5:22 pm

covenn wrote:
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No, the lord isn't more important than healing. No I wont 'just die'. I am going to fight the destro and if the lord resets because of it, so be it. The tanks cant keep agro because it is impossible for them to do so unless guarding me, and well ...they will be guarding the slayer or BW trying to keep the enemy from over running the keep. And no ....fighting a PvE mobs isn't team PvP.

So with that said, I am not complaining. I am just telling you the reality of the situation for myself and many other healers that prioritize enemy over PvE. The reason why I mentioned it wasn't to complain, but to identify a problem that might occur for other people that actually care about the keep lord. If this is a concern, then the suggestion I have would be for detaunt to drastically reduce the lord hate towards a healer and taunt to drastically increase it compared to current. Change it or not makes no difference to me, I was just thinking about other people and their game play.

Edit: I realize that may have come across rude and I apologize for that. I am just a very blunt person. My point is that I don't think it is fair for my game play style and priorities to affect people that want something else. If I pull agro on the lord from the people trying to kill it, give me some way to give it back to them reasonably. I really dont want to get in their way while fighting the enemy players.
clearly you have different concept of pvp than me. even in FPS there are several modes. you're saying like only specific killing mode is pvp.
it's ok, there are plenty of ppl having same idea with u. grp with them and stay away from "pve". block WC or postern, chase off reinforcements etc. such type can help campaign too.
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Re: Patch Notes 21/10/17

Post#132 » Tue Oct 24, 2017 5:29 pm

GodlessCrom wrote:Then stay away from the lord room and dont ruin the fight for your team.
If the enemy is there and I am killing them, then I am not ruining anything. I am helping.

If the enemy is not there then I won’t be there.

Again, not sure why people fighting with players have to compete with those fighting the lord. See suggested solutions above
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Re: Patch Notes 21/10/17

Post#133 » Tue Oct 24, 2017 5:35 pm

If you are resetting the lord, you are literally the opposite of helping. If you know that you are resetting the lord and doing it on purpose when you could be doing something else, youre just being a **** to everyone else on your side.
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Re: Patch Notes 21/10/17

Post#134 » Tue Oct 24, 2017 6:38 pm

Not sure why you are being so aggressive. Obviously I am not going out of my way to cause issues with people fighting the lord. In fact my suggestion would make it easier to avoid doing it on accident. Win win for everyone.

If I am there fighting enemy players and I get agro from healing, then I have no way to shake it currently other than dying. I am not going to stop healing. That is lose lose for everyone. You aren’t killing he lord if you wipe in the lord room.

Let me detaunt it and actually lose agro to a tank taunting it. That way I can be a healer and they can be a tank. I can help hold the lord room while they kill the lord. Not sure why that is generating so much hate from a few of you tbh.
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Re: Patch Notes 21/10/17

Post#135 » Tue Oct 24, 2017 6:41 pm

covenn wrote:
GodlessCrom wrote:Then stay away from the lord room and dont ruin the fight for your team.
If the enemy is there and I am killing them, then I am not ruining anything. I am helping.

If the enemy is not there then I won’t be there.

Again, not sure why people fighting with players have to compete with those fighting the lord. See suggested solutions above
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Re: Patch Notes 21/10/17

Post#136 » Tue Oct 24, 2017 6:46 pm

You literally said "Im going to fight destro and if the lord resets because of it, then so be it." You know theres an issue with healing aggro right now, and you know it can lead to lord resets. So, either you can just accept that you might aggro the lord and die, or you reset the lord to get away. You said you would reset the lord because "fighting destro" is more important than killing the lord. Literally saying "my personal concept of fun is more important than everyone else in the zone." Which is okay in most cases, except ones like these where you are directly making everyone else have a crappier experience because you refuse to adapt to new changes.

In short, youre being unreasonably selfish. If you dont like the lord room fights, then do something else that doesnt involve you potentially wrecking a zone lock in a very frustrating and preventable way.
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Re: Patch Notes 21/10/17

Post#137 » Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:02 pm

Ok, you are too busy attacking me than discussing the issue. No point in responding any further.
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Re: Patch Notes 21/10/17

Post#138 » Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:40 pm

stop with the arguing please and stick to notes.

Ideally you want to keep the enemy at the first floor anyway, either way aggro is a mechanic thats here to stay in one form or another so your going to have to adapt your tactics accordingly.

Keep fights are not supposed to be easy

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Re: Patch Notes 21/10/17

Post#139 » Tue Oct 24, 2017 9:12 pm

Natherul wrote:stop with the arguing please and stick to notes.

Ideally you want to keep the enemy at the first floor anyway, either way aggro is a mechanic thats here to stay in one form or another so your going to have to adapt your tactics accordingly.

Keep fights are not supposed to be easy
This. Like live. Thank you now we just need 6 hour fortresses fights. :mrgreen:
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Re: Patch Notes 21/10/17

Post#140 » Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:40 pm

Rowanmantle wrote:This. Like live. Thank you now we just need 6 hour fortresses fights. :mrgreen:
You had 20h KV fights already...
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