SHs call pet/stance CT&CD imbalanced compared to SW & WL?

[diedrake]

Aoe splash immunity is wl pet only.

[Haojin]

If your pet is about to die you can make it explode/eat it and the next one will be summoned instantly (for 10 seconds).

this.

also, make your pet "passive" all the time, just manage "attack-retreat" manually especially agaist life tappers, wh's.

[Osred]

Also to reiterate SH is a range pet class, meaning that the squig itself will be less likely to be targeted. Also backed up by player psychology, as players are naturally less inclined to attack pets as they usually

a) Worth no renown or XP

and for squig herders

b) Their pets are mostly ranged and usually in places nowhere near the squig herder, meaning players are less inclined to attack it even more, unlike the While Lion, which is **** huge and remains close to the player at all times which allows people to easily focus it down.

[Jerkling]

Stance swapping is more a sw/mara mechanic.
The closest thing SH have to stance is going into squig armor which is always available. [...]

just because the "stance mechanic" is the same doesn't mean the actual stance is the same which is what Hastykrasty was saying. and the closes thing SHs have to a stance are the pets as each one enables them to either have more range, shoot while moving or be thoughened up for melee combat, just like the SWs stances do. so no, SW and Mara have in no way the same or equal stance or any other mechanic(s). SWs are the mirror class/career of SHs even if the later has a pet and the former doesn't.

If your pet is about to die you can make it explode/eat it and the next one will be summoned instantly (for 10 seconds).

this.

also, make your pet "passive" all the time, just manage "attack-retreat" manually especially agaist life tappers, wh's.

being able to call another pet, even if instantly, is not the issue here.

Also to reiterate SH is a range pet class, meaning that the squig itself will be less likely to be targeted. [...]

you can count on your SH pet dying alot in ORvR as they in fact do get targeted alot and you do not always have the time to babysit them. also, even if you keep an eye on your pet most of the time they will be a lot closer to the enemy than you are and die on their way back often due to the sheer amount of DoT dmg alone.

[Coma]

Stance swapping is more a sw/mara mechanic.
The closest thing SH have to stance is going into squig armor which is always available. [...]

just because the "stance mechanic" is the same doesn't mean the actual stance is the same which is what Hastykrasty was saying. and the closes thing SHs have to a stance are the pets as each one enables them to either have more range, shoot while moving or be thoughened up for melee combat, just like the SWs stances do. so no, SW and Mara have in no way the same or equal stance or any other mechanic(s). SWs are the mirror class/career of SHs even if the later has a pet and the former doesn't.

stance are not only buff... the stance mechanic also restrict the usage of skill... that is how the mechanic work for both SW and mara... Sh instead only get the buff from squig but is not restricted.

In the previous given example if a SH is forced to use the "scout" pet he can still use all his skill, he simply loose AA on the move and 5% crit bonus compared to using the "skirmish" pet... but if a SW is forced to use "scout stance" than he can't use SFA, LA, ES and many other skill... this is the main difference between SH and SW and also the reason behind a 5sec shared CD (for SW stances) and a 30 sec independent cd (for SH squig), for SH the choice of of pet is simply a choice of buff (in fact you can use every skill with every kind of pet this actualy allow for combination of skill+buff that SW can't achive) for SW the choice o stance is instead a limitating factor and is generally done based on the skill you want to use (if you want to use a set of skill than you are FORCED to use a specific stance... for example 90% of "on the move" skill for SW can only be used while in skirmish, while SH can use all his "on the move" skill with any kind of pet)

[dansari]

OP, I don't think anyone knows what you want. Do you want your pets to work like WL where you can't have any for 15s? Do you want to be limited in the abilities you can use while in a specific stance? So far, it sounds like you want to be able to spawn the same pet instantly after it dies, on a 1s cast time, on the move.

When you say stuff like this:

What Telen said, furthermore SW's stances are more comparable to Mara's ones.

er, no, they aren't.

or when you argue that a pet is a stance (it's clearly not), it makes people question your thought process.

[Penril]

When OP makes up his mind about what is it he wants, he can make a proposal.

Time to lock this.