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anarchypark
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Re: [SM] New changes in patch (19th aug)

Post#11 » Mon Aug 20, 2018 10:42 pm

Isha's Protection ?
that's one of my main tactic.
who calls it useless?
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Re: [SM] New changes in patch (19th aug)

Post#12 » Mon Aug 20, 2018 10:49 pm

What about if BoH was baseline tactic... and replaces Adept movements (completely useless SM tactic) I mean no one is going to miss AM but I have already met several that weren't happy about BoH's rework. Or better yet why not just remove all morale pumps/drains from all classes so one side doesn't have an advantage... But seriously what SM is going to run the morale drain tactic?

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Re: [SM] New changes in patch (19th aug)

Post#13 » Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:05 pm

Insta rez AM paired with WW SM who goes up a tree whose 11pt tactic used to be a gimmicky low heal tactic. Now you can morale drain with WoH and high rr SMs can get Raking Talons as well and go snb, providing a ton of utility for warband (aoe damage decreaser, aoe interrupt, WW, morale drain + HtL, Wings of Heaven for chasing gobbos...) If you appreciated it so much maybe it could be brought back in place of Calming Winds? I feel all the blade enchants are getting reworked at some point, so you'll have even more utility through those instead of only having Nature's Blade be viable.
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ashton007
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Re: [SM] New changes in patch (19th aug)

Post#14 » Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:27 pm

Sorry I didnt mean IP i meant adept movements.

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Re: [SM] New changes in patch (19th aug)

Post#15 » Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:34 pm

And Dan that is a wonderful idea. I really enjoyed my double hp regens for whatever reason...

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Ramasee
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Re: [SM] New changes in patch (19th aug)

Post#16 » Tue Aug 21, 2018 12:10 am

Eh the only real loss blessing of heaven is the insane aggro you could generate with in on keep lords and other pve bosses. I logged in to check the trees out, trust me snb SMs did not get a nerf.

Now you can AoE drain morale, reduce enemy damage in AoE, AoE interupt, and AoE absorb for your team while having nature's blade up (75) with a 50rr build: 14 in vaul, 13 in hoeth.

PoH -> WoH -> Dragon's Talon -> sudden shift -> WoH -> dragon's talon

With both tree's 11pt tactics

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Aethilmar
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Re: [SM] New changes in patch (19th aug)

Post#17 » Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:02 am

Healmaster was gimicky although in PUG scenarios it was occasionally a life saver if you only had one heal. Also was fun for roaming in the lakes and picking up lots of random, minor renown ticks ... :D

Anyway, mostly like the new changes. They open up a couple intriguing new options while only really closing the down the super bubble heal master build.
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Re: [SM] New changes in patch (19th aug)

Post#18 » Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:13 am

I reckon phoenix wing was moved to hoeth to synergize with new moraledrain tactic as a WB utility spec, would maybe remove 2h requirement on i now as the wb specs usually requires snb unless suicidal.
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Re: [SM] New changes in patch (19th aug)

Post#19 » Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:16 am

Ugle wrote: Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:13 am I reckon phoenix wing was moved to hoeth to synergize with new moraledrain tactic as a WB utility spec, would maybe remove 2h requirement on i now as the wb specs usually requires snb unless suicidal.
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vladerethro
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Re: [SM] New changes in patch (19th aug)

Post#20 » Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:32 am

More group utility is really a good improvement for SM.
I tried something like 11-0-11 to mix offense/moral drain (with def stats), but this new Aethyric Dissipation tactic didn't work, still got the Blessing of Heaven debuff on my targets with hoeth abilities and i receive heal when hit them.
In addition, I believe Phoenix's wing is now hoeth, but this doesn't apply the debuff.
I Couldn't verify if the moral drain works.

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