If Order cannot win Scenarios, how do we get emblems?

[peterthepan3]

Balance between the realms for smallscale is honestly fine for the most part. Therefore, the determining factors in winning scenarios will be: a) who has the premades, b) who launches the initiative first (aggressors usually best), c) who can maintain/capture objectives, and d) who has the better players.

^ This is from my 4 years' experience of almost exclusively doing SC.

[Nidwin]

Look at the bright side Izariel.
The more scenarios you lose the better the few wins you get feel amazing.

Hysterians always win, at least one medallion every scenario.

C'est ca une vrai guilde de malades.

[Izariel]

Is there a better time to find order groups? I am on MST time in America. I tried asking for a group in LFG but no one responded.

Thanks for the advice.

[ajnin420]

Is there a better time to find order groups? I am on MST time in America. I tried asking for a group in LFG but no one responded.

Thanks for the advice.

Lfg is not the best way (imo) to find sc groups. Best bet is to find a guild, get to know people and play with them and in time you will see results. You will get as much out of this approach as you put in.

[Grobbok]

create one token system, as it was on live, so no matter if you playing pvp or rvr, you can buy weapons, armor
STOP force players to play what they don't want play

[Izariel]

create one token system, as it was on live, so no matter if you playing pvp or rvr, you can buy weapons, armor
STOP force players to play what they don't want play

YES PLEASE

[Urdeg]

Dear OP; who told you Order doesn't win scenarios? This whole thread is a classic grass-is-always-greener sort of thing. It could depend on your playtime, it could depend on your groups, but to say Order cannot win scenarios is flat out wrong. I don't remember grinding out my SC weapons with loss after loss.

In time you'll eventually find some destro player whining about how destro never wins and you'll begin to understand that its a matter of perspective.

[Cube404]

For being on NA times, yeah usually we've got the short end of populations during the week, I'm CST myself. There really isn't much you can do, other than try and communicate or pray you get more than one Mdps.

Edit: Destro, yes we lose as well.

[CountTalabecland]

This same post gets reincarnated from time to time when the destro melee train is rolling. There is probably a logical fallacy at play here in thinking that your experience is equivalent to the realm's experience overall. Premades probably represent the lion's share of wins for both realms.

But if you are like me and personal time constraints make for short playing sessions, then here is my advice to PUGs.
1) Level a tank or healer alt if you haven't already. Order is 75% dps and it shows. You will be amazed how many more you win just by playing healer and being the hero Gotham needs.
2) Be fast out of the start: Make sure you leave the start of the scenario the second the clock ticks down. Otherwise the dest melee blob will beat Order to the scene and most of the time that's goodnight for Order.
3) If you see someone not playing their class, be vocal. What I mean is if there are tanks not guarding, ask in chat for them to guard. If there is a Rune Priest not buffing, ask him to buff. Don't sit there in silence with PUGs because their poor play style will cost you.
4) PLAY THE OBJECTIVE: Try to herd the cats and keep people from over extending to their deaths. One wipe like that can turn the whole scenario on its head and end with the classic Order snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

That said, 10/12 players being RDPS who somehow manage to not keep their range and get caught and contribute no damage on account of being dead will still cost you a lot of scenarios. Also worth noting that if you go for the premade grp game, some classes work for that and some are novelties, like Slayer, where WL can do the job better in any scenario.

[Secrets]

It's not an issue.