[DOK]How to disable shield dok- the guide.

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Zxul
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[DOK]How to disable shield dok- the guide.

Post#1 » Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:02 pm

Offered as service to new players out there.

You had probably run into shield doks out there, which seems in small scale like they have all the goodies- block, self heals, channel to ignore roots/snares, while also decent dmg and potentially heal debuff. Lets me insure you that it isn't really so- shield doks are very easy to kill, when you understand how they work.

The weakness which shield doks got, is that dok can only have one of two options:
* Good regular heals- which however require Soul Essence regen source which shield dok doesn't really has unless he can get into melee range, and which require not having tactics debuffing % healing such as Divine Fury equipped- while from other hand those tactics are required to have actually good lifetap heals.
* Good lifetap heals- which require dok being able to get into melee range of a class that he can actually do dmg to (=not snb kotb for example), and which also require equipping tactics such as Divine Fury which nerf dok's regular heals, and likely fully offensive armor set which once again means dok doesn't has will/heal crit to have efficient regular heals.

In both options however dok being able to get into melee range of nontank target is a baseline requirement- which is what makes them very easy to disable.

All you need is 1 tank, preferably kotb, and 1 ranged kiter. 16 kotb and 16 bw or am is likely to be enough to disable rr80 shield dok.

Tank needs to stay in melee range of dok, and chain snare. Dok doesn't has any gap closer, aside from Flee + ap pot. He does got Soul Ward channel for 10 sec root/snare immunity- so tank needs to have Taunt ready to interrupt, and might have m2 Focused Mind equipped for another 10 sec root/snare immunity- so the tank should have punt ready. Dok also has Fist of Khaine ability with 65 f range, which also can proc CoC snare- so the kiter should keep range to make sure dok can't use it.

While tank is chain snaring, kiter should keep range and blast with instacast/short cast abilities. Kotb tank works especially well here since his resists aura also debuffs dok's resists, making the dok take more dmg from bw/am.

In this situation dok can't really do much- even if he is more regular heals specced with just some block for flavor, he might last somewhat longer but he still doesn't has chalice Soul Essence regen. If however he is lifetap heals specced- like he likely is- then he got practically no heals- Transfer Essence won't do much dmg to kotb between block/armor so not much healing, and Rend Soul won't do much dmg to kotb between resists aura/block- meaning again not much healing.

So to sum it- make sure to put kotb+kiter pair on shield dok every time you see one, and you will easily make sure he spends most of sc waiting for respawn.

Have fun out there!
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Re: [DOK]How to disable shield dok- the guide.

Post#2 » Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:07 pm

also melee heals dok just got a massive nerf to the actual amount of healing they can do from lifetaps............in perfect world (no toughness/armour mitigation) the changes are a buff but we dont live in that world even pve its a nerf........
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uanaka
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Re: [DOK]How to disable shield dok- the guide.

Post#3 » Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:38 pm

excuse you, i would greatly appreciate it if you didn't educate people on how to deal with me. can't you please let me revel in my buffs for one day at least?

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Re: [DOK]How to disable shield dok- the guide.

Post#4 » Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:09 am

well to be fair you use the same tactics to down Melee heal WP.......also in the Melee heal bandwagon
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Wiede
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Re: [DOK]How to disable shield dok- the guide.

Post#5 » Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:45 am

Well this sounds like "how to fight any melee" with extra steps.

Just one thing: Always having a target sticking to me even if its a tank that i can leech off sounds pretty dope to me with new pre mitigation lifetaps :D

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Arbich
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Re: [DOK]How to disable shield dok- the guide.

Post#6 » Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:58 am

So shield-doks are easy to kill as long as you have twice the numbers and bring specific classes? Good to know!
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Zxul
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Re: [DOK]How to disable shield dok- the guide.

Post#7 » Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:02 am

Arbich wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:58 am So shield-doks are easy to kill as long as you have twice the numbers and bring specific classes? Good to know!
Any tank + any rdps will do. And see the part about lvl 16 kotb+ lvl 16 am/bw being able to kill a fully geared rr80 shield dok.
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Re: [DOK]How to disable shield dok- the guide.

Post#8 » Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:09 pm

Sirlagsalot wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:07 pm also melee heals dok just got a massive nerf to the actual amount of healing they can do from lifetaps............in perfect world (no toughness/armour mitigation) the changes are a buff but we dont live in that world even pve its a nerf........
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Re: [DOK]How to disable shield dok- the guide.

Post#9 » Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:11 pm

Martingale wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:09 pm
Sirlagsalot wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:07 pm also melee heals dok just got a massive nerf to the actual amount of healing they can do from lifetaps............in perfect world (no toughness/armour mitigation) the changes are a buff but we dont live in that world even pve its a nerf........
These were my thoughts too. As you said in a perfect world we would be free to hit healers/rdps, but sometimes depending on the situation we have no choice but to hit tanks/mdps. In such cases lifetaps took a big hit from reducing the base heal.
Just curious, but have you had a chance to test it out?

If so what gear and stats were you using?

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wachlarz
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Re: [DOK]How to disable shield dok- the guide.

Post#10 » Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:45 pm

If one dps kill a healer somthing is wrong.

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