Patch Notes 18/03/2021

[Krima]

I've worked more than 10 years in software development and I tell you one thing: "You should never let source code developers make product changing decisions." No offense, I have worked as coder as well but it is really true.

Why? They don't use their own product enough as enduser, they don't talk to these people enough, they are usually busy with certain problems and don't see the bigger picture and they usually take the easy road to fix problems - which often results in mediocre solutions or solutions nobody wanted.

So the thing I have learned: Let product developers and or community people talk with enduseres, do the analysis and discussion, draw conclusions and then discuss that with the source code devs. Only then you will develop a product into the right direction. Everything else goes into the wrong direction.

Looking at the last few patches I don't have the feeling that they were on point, nor what people wanted or expected.

Good advice. Can't disagree. However, changes in RoR seem to be based on the whining of average population which is hopelessly bad at the game. Dalen is listening to nonsense of one angry mediocre player all day and seemingly getting ideas from him (that is just one example).

Yes..

WHs got their grp utility after:

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=42646

19 pages of work , Its funny that right after the Armor Debuff, not a single complain on that topic

[Magusar]

Double

[Magusar]

Questionable how this helps the game balance.

Nothing.
Up for strong , nerf for the weak, exept mist/napalm part.
Its a huge nerf for wh/we and grave for the magus/eng and bw/sorc.

[martholomew]

"Bug Fixes

- The damage bonus from turrets now works like the tooltips say, +4% damage per stack up to a maximum of +20%. Previously they gave +5% per stack, up to a maximum of +40%."

yea, DEFINITELY not playing my Magus/RoR anymore now. Was hard enough getting included in anything....but now..? Oh well. I'll check back every so often on the state of the game to see if anything changes.

Stay safe everyone.

[Akalukz]

yeah not really sure the thought process behind TB. If damage is out of whack, nerf damage not give even more tools for end game characters that aren't available to new/mid game characters. This just puts Geared RR70+ characters even more god mode. Cap renown points at 60 instead of 80. Make your renown point sacrificial. There needs to be a trade off, either offensive or defensive renown build. not both.

[Mergrim]

TB changes almost nothing. It's still better to specialize in full FS. I don't think someone will start using TB just to reduce damage from 4-6 classes. Wp / dok will have to sacrifice heal crit% if they want TB + FS, not worth it in my opinion.
Good change for magius / engi. They still should be top dmg on city, so a small damage nerf was needed .. Good ST nerf, probably no one likes to get snipe / bolt of change for 3k +.

Unfortunately, the server is currently unstable and often crashes to the login or desktop screen.

[Nebuchadnezzar]

Bug Fixes

- The damage bonus from turrets now works like the tooltips say, +4% damage per stack up to a maximum of +20%. Previously they gave +5% per stack, up to a maximum of +40%.



Bug Fixes

- The damage bonus from daemons now works like the tooltips say, +4% damage per stack up to a maximum of +20%. Previously they gave +5% per stack, up to a maximum of +40%.

Not sure I'd really call it a bug fix given that it's been around for ages and everybody knew it was 40%. It's been that way since live and has always been rolled into the class balance. I would have said that was just a tooltip issue, this is just a flat out 20% damage nerf. Because everybody knew Engis/Magi were overperforming in city and took them over other DPS classes, right?

I could understand if it was accompanied with some help on being able to keep up with the fights as they move, but this just makes no sense :/

[Detangler]

-Order has too many engies. maybe now some will reroll to a more useful class for their realm.

-Good change for the scenario matchmaker. hopefully will see more competitive matches for those that don't want to form a group.

-Pretty sure you will need to, you know, give up renown spent in other areas for TB.

Maybe go outside and have a look before you claim the sky is falling?

[sighy]

From my DoK testing 4TB and 3FS works out roughly the same, when damaged by choppa/mara. (granted i have a ton of Toughness) The major difference between the two is that TB evens the damage curve, where FS is dedicationg yourself tot he altar of RNG sometimes it work other times you get chonked a bit. I could see tanks going all the way on both of these and making Sorc/BWs very sad.

[lyncher12]

i'm happy you finally nerfed the biggest noob class in the game. theres nothing healthy about the game when its just engineers camping on walls of their keep. maybe they will have to learn to play now.