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Vigfuss
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Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21 (temp change until T3)

Post#101 » Sun Jul 19, 2015 7:37 pm

Telen wrote:
Vigfuss wrote:Any class or comp that's very difficult to counter naturally becomes FOTM as we saw in the original game. To me the not quite mirrored classes are one of the features that always made the game interesting.

Thinking about balance in terms of how to counter things is better than just saying, they have this and we don't, because there will always be something.
If you believe that you werent playing war. The FOTM was FOTM for the last 4 years.
Yes, because they were not easily countered
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Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21 (temp change until T3)

Post#102 » Sun Jul 19, 2015 7:40 pm

Vigfuss wrote: Yes, because they were not easily countered
For 4 years
Even if you did make a counter the premades are set around those setup with 5 years experience. Create a counter that anyone could just jump on to counter those set up with that much experience would have to be stupid op itself.
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Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21 (temp change until T3)

Post#103 » Sun Jul 19, 2015 7:45 pm

Telen wrote:
Vigfuss wrote: Yes, because they were not easily countered
For 4 years
I don't think we actually disagree here lol
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Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21 (temp change until T3)

Post#104 » Sun Jul 19, 2015 7:46 pm

Vigfuss wrote:
Telen wrote:
Vigfuss wrote: Yes, because they were not easily countered
For 4 years
I don't think we actually disagree here lol
I think youre right
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Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21 (temp change until T3)

Post#105 » Sun Jul 19, 2015 7:51 pm

Well well ...

I'd much rather see the strengths of AM/Shaman being enhanced instead of converting them Dok/WP-lights. Obviously group cleanse needs to be made less effective but we all knew that already

What is next AOE WH/WEs?
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wender88
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Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21 (temp change until T3)

Post#106 » Sun Jul 19, 2015 7:54 pm

Bozzax wrote:Well well ...

I'd much rather see the strengths of AM/Shaman being enhanced instead of converting them Dok/WP-lights. Obviously group cleanse needs to be made less effective but we all knew that already

What is next AOE WH/WEs?
On Your Knees and Dragon Gun ;)
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Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21 (temp change until T3)

Post#107 » Sun Jul 19, 2015 7:56 pm

Morf wrote:
Sulorie wrote:Push the cap to 26 and all balance issues are fixed.
Tier brackets are the way they are for a reason. Everyone needs to forget about anything past level 21 right now, each class just mastery sklls alone means 3 tactics and 3 skills to be completly fixed and debugged, that is 144 tactics and skills !!!


So to all you ppl who dont think realms should be balanced let me ask you this...If things were the other way around and sh's had a range kd and had access to a heal debuff at level 21 but sw's didnt wouldnt you agree it would make sense to mirror it so order have a spamable healdebuff ?
Well don't you guys get a heal debuff the way it is with the mara?? You have the only real heal debuff in the game atm is order crying?

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Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21 (temp change until T3)

Post#108 » Sun Jul 19, 2015 8:00 pm

wender88 wrote: On Your Knees and Dragon Gun ;)
Damn you made me chuckle-cough and spill coffee
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Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21 (temp change until T3)

Post#109 » Sun Jul 19, 2015 8:03 pm

Bozzax wrote:
wender88 wrote: On Your Knees and Dragon Gun ;)
Damn you made me chuckle-cough and spill coffee
Mission accomplished!

Tbf OYK is a damn good ability, but thats mostly down to the KD and not the AOE :)
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Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21 (temp change until T3)

Post#110 » Sun Jul 19, 2015 8:39 pm

tr400ex wrote: Well don't you guys get a heal debuff the way it is with the mara?? You have the only real heal debuff in the game atm is order crying?
Maraders have a 25% incoming healdebuff with a 5 sec cooldown and ofc you have to be in mele range it can hardly be called a heal debuff, Wh's and We's have a 50% outgoing healdebuff. The thing with sw and sh heal debuff is it has no cooldown and can ofc be used at range meaning minimal risk to apply it. It is very easy to assist someone as a sh or sw and keep them perma 50% heal debuff and if you give 1 realm be it order or destro this **** will favor which ever side has it.
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