I’m looking for a class that …

[Farrul]

If you want to be a succesfull SnB ib soloer you can't focus on regen, you need to be offensive. You need some regen, but offensive tank gear already provides It.

You should also have different gear sets and tactics for different situations to be more offensive or defensive depending on the enemy/enemies.

Of course, some people will escape, but that happens to all classes that try to solo. If you still can get 20-30 solo kills per session without being solo killed (except by guards when you get too close to enemy warcamp or killed by terrain) then it is ok, IMO. Some people also like to be the one not running away like a /chicken.

I personally get bored of my IB as SnB due to low damage overall, players dont honor 1v1 in the lakes nobody fights fairly, adds will join there will be speed gobos everywhere etc, hence why the WL of old before the era of nerfs and bugs was the most fun melee class to me personally, you could catch and kill anything trying to escape.

However if you find it enjoyable more power to you. Honestly though IB solo has always been about 2H, from Volgograd to right when they started to mess the class up,with the nerf to GnM and then finally removed it completely. Talking about SnB IB as solo meta for the class is melancholic (although lore friendly i guess).

[tagliolawhaag]

Look, i sai di like big numbers when I hit BUT If I can easly stand against almost each class I am more happy. Because as they say a glass cannon without the proper support cannot do so much, especially If roaming alone.

[Omegus]

Thanks, what is S+, S, A ?

So you are suggesting classes that are not DPS, interesting …

S+, S, A, B, C, D, E, etc are "grades" on a tier list. Where as a normal exam grade usually has A+ at the maximum (or A* in some cases) and then the later letters get worse, video game tier lists usually also include S tier above A, and S+ tier above S, etc, usually to indicate when something is exceptionally powerful to the detriment of everything else.

In this case, Archmage/Shaman being S+ tier is probably pretty accurate as they are pretty much perfect 1v1 classes and almost nothing can compete with them on that level.

[Pahakukka]

Look, i sai di like big numbers when I hit BUT If I can easly stand against almost each class I am more happy. Because as they say a glass cannon without the proper support cannot do so much, especially If roaming alone.

I have roamed with ultra tanky specs with both engi and magus for several years and it does get tedious. I switched to dps specs and have roamed even with choppa and slayer and i enjoy them a lot. My magus could take on (facetank) almost anyone in server, but mainly due the 850 toughness and high regen+ pilfer proc. all while chewing away thro enemys hp bar slowly but steadily.

After a while it gets a)boring to play and b)very hard to find anyone to fight against. Same thing with engi, tho it was far less tankier. Now both classes are dps build and i never had more fun. Engi is working wonders with AA spec, and magus is usually in high crit build. Sure I die a lot to good wh openers etc, but if they mess that up and i play my cards right its gonna be very good fight indeed.

I did soloroam choppa from rr50ish to rr70 but that was the strong(er) riposte era and wont really count, could beat some poor IB with choppa by not hitting a single key other than turning the face towards ib and letting red riposte dmg work its magic. Recently im roaming with 2h slayer and its even more fun fighting melee dps with it, very small margin of errors and you gotta be a lot more aware on what other guy is doing as you dot get second changes like you do in tank specs. (you just cannot sponge the dmg, and look for another opportunity)

I really suggest you to try the dmg builds on soloroaming even tho it will mean that dear k/d ratio will be blown to bits. The fights as a whole are a lot more fun and engaging as dps spec than in tank spec. As a chosen you will be very tanky in endgear whatever you do, so i could imagine you can go pretty offensive while still being able to sustain.

What comes to groups ganking you, the same group will gank dps spec and tank spec alike and soloing theres very little you can do about it (high cc classes have some fun while running away tho)

[tagliolawhaag]

Look, i sai di like big numbers when I hit BUT If I can easly stand against almost each class I am more happy. Because as they say a glass cannon without the proper support cannot do so much, especially If roaming alone.

I have roamed with ultra tanky specs with both engi and magus for several years and it does get tedious. I switched to dps specs and have roamed even with choppa and slayer and i enjoy them a lot. My magus could take on (facetank) almost anyone in server, but mainly due the 850 toughness and high regen+ pilfer proc. all while chewing away thro enemys hp bar slowly but steadily.

After a while it gets a)boring to play and b)very hard to find anyone to fight against. Same thing with engi, tho it was far less tankier. Now both classes are dps build and i never had more fun. Engi is working wonders with AA spec, and magus is usually in high crit build. Sure I die a lot to good wh openers etc, but if they mess that up and i play my cards right its gonna be very good fight indeed.

I did soloroam choppa from rr50ish to rr70 but that was the strong(er) riposte era and wont really count, could beat some poor IB with choppa by not hitting a single key other than turning the face towards ib and letting red riposte dmg work its magic. Recently im roaming with 2h slayer and its even more fun fighting melee dps with it, very small margin of errors and you gotta be a lot more aware on what other guy is doing as you dot get second changes like you do in tank specs. (you just cannot sponge the dmg, and look for another opportunity)

I really suggest you to try the dmg builds on soloroaming even tho it will mean that dear k/d ratio will be blown to bits. The fights as a whole are a lot more fun and engaging as dps spec than in tank spec. As a chosen you will be very tanky in endgear whatever you do, so i could imagine you can go pretty offensive while still being able to sustain.

What comes to groups ganking you, the same group will gank dps spec and tank spec alike and soloing theres very little you can do about it (high cc classes have some fun while running away tho)

Thank for the reply, i’m so nOOb and can’t understand the abbreviation you use. I will try the chosen and let’s see what I can do. I don’t like rely on others to be able to use my class. I know the spirit of this game is team team team BUT in low tiers is difficult especially in destruction to find support. I would like a class that can do all by itself to a certain limit or using some skills. I like big damage but also have to survive otherwise is nonsense. If chosen can survive while slowly kill. I don’t really like the shaman mechanic and black orc mechanic i find them distracting like dok mechanic. I like keeping it simple, like sorc: shoot->kill . That’s what I like.

[tagliolawhaag]

For summarizing : IF you can suggest a class that can survive and/or killing fast without using toomany buttons and wierd mechanics I will appreciate. Sorry but maybe that is what i’m looking for. It is difficult for me write in english What i’m thinking ( also because i don’t know well ) i’m italian.

[Stinksuit]

For summarizing : IF you can suggest a class that can survive and/or killing fast without using toomany buttons and wierd mechanics I will appreciate. Sorry but maybe that is what i’m looking for. It is difficult for me write in english What i’m thinking ( also because i don’t know well ) i’m italian.

You could give magus a try then. You can build it farely defensively without losing too much dmg and it is super strong solo class with good kit. Pahakukka here aka Daewuur has alot of good solo magus videos with both tanky and full dmg spec so you can see it in action and whats it capable of doing as both tanky and dps :)

[tagliolawhaag]

Thank you very much I appreciate it

[tagliolawhaag]

Guys am i wrong or I feel that destruction side hasn’t OP classes? It is a bit annoying that they often are 3vs1 compa red to us so it is difficult to learn how to use a class properly…

[Templa]

Guys am i wrong or I feel that destruction side hasn’t OP classes? It is a bit annoying that they often are 3vs1 compa red to us so it is difficult to learn how to use a class properly…

That is correct, Destruction needs a buff for all classes.
I suggest a flat 10% dmg bonus on everything. Also buff shamans, give 1 more dot and make RUN AWAY! baseline passive.

Just kidding, the thing is everything below lvl 40 is a mess. And T1 iespecially is even worse than T2-3 because Healers are immortal and Tanks in 2h are as strong as dps. There are some classes, that profit from the RvR scaling more than others and feel like gods with the correct gear and fully slotted talismans. For example i remember on my IB i could just facetank about everything in RvR starting at 31 up to 35 or 36 and deal way to much dmg on top of it.
The thing is, as soon as you hit lvl 40 you are paper unless you have armor ready to go or can compensate through RR.
RR is Renown Points. RR gives you very high flat stat boosts and high percentages of defense. (very important to have high Renown. As a new player you should aim to hit lvl 40 and have your Renown level at 40 as well. Everything above that is great. Everything below that is rough because you will get crit non stop.

So if you are lvl 40 and dont have good gear and are low in RR it's like: Imagine it like in wow. You hit max level in green/blue PvE gear, queue up for a battleground and deal 0 dmg and die in 3 global cooldowns. Even though this wont change here if you play vs premades. You will die, except if you are Gilgam dancing on the side of a cliff messing with people. Maybe Gilgam could take you in as an IB disciple, but IB is harder to play and definitely harder to master than Chosen.

Guildwise you could try getting in contact with Italian Job, they can definitely help you with all your questions.

If you follow the recommendations here and keep on playing a bit longer you will see what the different classes are capable of.
You have a really hard goal if you want to focus on 1v1. Escpecially as a new player without any ressources and experience. It will be a long and hard road but if you are successful you might one day stand in IC and beg people to duel you for gold.