Maybe it's time to do something about WL

[DiMakss]

Welcom to meta, son

[Nelly74]

Feels like I’ve been hearing about that famous DPS patch for as long as the “imminent” release of Camelot Unchained!

[wildwindblows]

Slayer was OP for a long while and now it is in bad condition.
Wl is OP for a long while atm but i hope it wont share same fate with slayer.

Killing classes wont bring balance to this game.

[Stinksuit]

I feel like either provide useful comments what should be done to WL and give suggestions or stop making these posts, they won't lead into anything other than the usual back and forth of people saying "wl op" -> "destro players just cry so it gets nerfed like they did with rampage"..

You're giving the wrong example.
Requests to change Rampage actually worked, and now we finally have a very well-balanced skill and class.

I am not saying rampage nerf wasn't justified or that slayer is bad now. I simply used example of how these threads will turn out eventually.

[Deadpoet]

All I know is that if WL gets nerfed in next dps patch and godmode tank self heal disengage-if-not-interested WE escapes intact the popular ingame emote: "swears at the unfairness of it all" will be a joke compared to the real feeling of many players, and probably the straw that breaks the camel's back.

[Gunlinger]

This is getting ridiculous

Melee (main DPS archetype) Order:
- White Lion
- Slayer
- Witch Hunter (no 24 target, zero cooldown, AOE base ability. Only 1 big AOE spender with high cooldown)
- melee SW (single target focus)

Melee able non DPS archtype Order:
- Warrior Priest
- Tanks with 2 hand (mediocre aoe dmg)

Melee (main DPS archetype) Destro:
- Choppa
- Marauder
- Melee Squigherder (aoe target focused)
- Witch Elf (no 24 target, zero cooldown, AOE base ability. Only 1 big AOE spender with high cooldown)

Melee able non DPS archtype Destro:
- Disciple of Khaine
- Tanks with 2 hand (mediocre aoe dmg)


Order has Slayer and WL as AoE heavy melee classes. Slayer was top tier and got nerfed. Melee dps players adapted and leveled up Lions.
Now Lion is top tier, not by WL buff but by Slayer nerf.
You complain about WL being top out of 2 options of Orders possible main AOE focused MELEE classes. WHAT IS YOUR POINT? WHAT DO YOU WANT?
You Think they should turn SW Assault stance into the same AOE heavy monster Bruiser the SH is right now? Guess we had that already and it was reverted because it was viewed as to OP.

You can not force order to not play WL and stick to SL when WL is obviusly the last unclipped melee aoe option.
You hate to see so much WLs around? Then say thanks to the main destro player from the ballance team that wanted to get rid of Slayers having access to their natural AA dmg and the possibility to drop flurry 24 target taktic in favor of another taktic to slot.
Lucky for them that it affected Slayer more then Choppa, so you would not see a shift on destro side.

[Nelly74]

This is getting ridiculous

Melee (main DPS archetype) Order:
- White Lion
- Slayer
- Witch Hunter (no 24 target, zero cooldown, AOE base ability. Only 1 big AOE spender with high cooldown)
- melee SW (single target focus)

Melee able non DPS archtype Order:
- Warrior Priest
- Tanks with 2 hand (mediocre aoe dmg)

Melee (main DPS archetype) Destro:
- Choppa
- Marauder
- Melee Squigherder (aoe target focused)
- Witch Elf (no 24 target, zero cooldown, AOE base ability. Only 1 big AOE spender with high cooldown)

Melee able non DPS archtype Destro:
- Disciple of Khaine
- Tanks with 2 hand (mediocre aoe dmg)


Order has Slayer and WL as AoE heavy melee classes. Slayer was top tier and got nerfed. Melee dps players adapted and leveled up Lions.
Now Lion is top tier, not by WL buff but by Slayer nerf.
You complain about WL being top out of 2 options of Orders possible main AOE focused MELEE classes. WHAT IS YOUR POINT? WHAT DO YOU WANT?
You Think they should turn SW Assault stance into the same AOE heavy monster Bruiser the SH is right now? Guess we had that already and it was reverted because it was viewed as to OP.

You can not force order to not play WL and stick to SL when WL is obviusly the last unclipped melee aoe option.
You hate to see so much WLs around? Then say thanks to the main destro player from the ballance team that wanted to get rid of Slayers having access to their natural AA dmg and the possibility to drop flurry 24 target taktic in favor of another taktic to slot.
Lucky for them that it affected Slayer more then Choppa, so you would not see a shift on destro side.

Totally disagree. The argument is false and dishonest. Seriously, drawing a parallel between the WL buff and the Slayer nerf… anyway, these kinds of discussions are pointless; I’ll leave them to others.

[Martok]

This is getting ridiculous

Its cyclic. At one time Squig Herders dominated Scenarios and most warbands. Things were everywhere, typically in numbers equal or greater then in the image you posted. Choppas were also king at one time, as were Slayers. This was interspaced with the great Shadow Warrior flux followed by the Multiple Magus Scourge. White Lions will have their day and then some other class will rise to power. So it goes.

[Alubert]

Unbelievable.
If someone doesn't see that WL/mara doesn't deserve balancing because it's too powerful, then there's probably no point in continuing to read this forum thread.
The same goes for people who think SL is unplayable just because the skill that killed everything that moved in the area has been balanced.

[kleinbuchstabe]

Unbelievable.
If someone doesn't see that WL/mara doesn't deserve balancing because it's too powerful, then there's probably no point in continuing to read this forum thread.
The same goes for people who think SL is unplayable just because the skill that killed everything that moved in the area has been balanced.

This.

And if you like it or not: These kind of complains come from bad players. People who need to play overpowered classes to shine, cause they just suck with balanced classes. So they defend the OP status no matter what, like: "nothing to see here" or " ...but... the others...", and after the class got some balance, they claim that its not playable anymore, cause they start to suck with their OP-hero now as well... Its absolutley worthless to discuss with these poeple, or even read what they writing here. After balance, they will cry about nerf, and rage quit their class, or evene the game. No loss.