This is a question for the wise and/or those with experience. Between the offensively oriented Black Orc or offensively oriented Chosen: which is more fun? I look for your fun-ness metric.
(This is not concerned with standard DPS)
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DPS focused Black Orc vs Chosen
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both are great. BO have better st brust. Chosen have more aoe pressure.
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The fun is relative if you mean going solo and having chance to kill other solo players or 2vs1 chosen is the man
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BO will hit you like a truck under ''You Wot'' and with the right tactics, it's 2H burst should be noticable higher than a Chosen. Chosen has better itemization(Magic dps) and more sustain if 1vs1 is your thing.Orontes wrote: Sun Jan 25, 2026 8:28 pm This is a question for the wise and/or those with experience. Between the offensively oriented Black Orc or offensively oriented Chosen: which is more fun? I look for your fun-ness metric.
(This is not concerned with standard DPS)
Cheers
I am positive a BO should be more funt to play ( big crits are fun). A 2H Chosen is imho less fun than 2H kotbs ( and they're comprable since mirror class).
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Thank you all for the replies. I appreciate it.
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BO very weak when it comes to medium and high armor defense, low parry after WS nerf.
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hordak774 wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 10:29 am BO very weak when it comes to medium and high armor defense, low parry after WS nerf.
Only if you fall for the siren song of the +15% crit damage bonus on Painboss.
A mix of Wl/Vic gives plenty of parry with the parry tactic and parry buff. Should be 50%+ base even without the parry buff up. Hell, BO can get 80%+ parry if we're in Best Plan and running Quit Yer Squablinn'.
WL/Vic mix also gives more than enough armour penetration to deal with medium and heavy armour. Especially when combined with Twilight/LV rings.
With the WS buff up, I have 62% armour pen on my 6WL/3Vic BO with 190+ damage bonus. That, combined with our armour debuff, is more than enough to deal decent assist damage to even heavy armour classes. *EDIT* Forgot about demolishing strike for another 1056 armour debuff if you really want to go all in.
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Re: DPS focused Black Orc vs Chosen
You used to have both High crit rate/Crit dmg and High Armour penetration with WS just with the Gear and the base game, you didnt have to choose which one to stack:E Also there was counters to higher dmg, for example set bonuses like IB had 7pc Warlord " Guard dmg reduced by 30% " Making dmg from guard only 20% Instead of 50%<3
You had jewel set for everyone that " 25% of being hit chance to remove 50 morale from the attacker "
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You had jewel set for everyone that " 25% of being hit chance to remove 50 morale from the attacker "
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