Sequencer Addon needs update

[Draugris]

Sequencer should not exist. Nerf Buttons was a cheat and Sequencer is its cousin.

That's complete nonsense. NB was never a cheat, of course. NB made clever use of the API Mythic provided. So absolutely nothing against the ToS. On live, NB was neither banned nor sanctioned. Whether the add-on was good for the game or for competitive gameplay is a completely different question. Just because you haven't liked it does not make it a cheat. To call Sequencer a cousin of NB only shows that you have zero clue about both add-ons. Sequencer has far fewer capabilities and is not able to react to certain situations like positioning or specific buffs or debuffs etc., which is intended.

[Orontes]

Sequencer should not exist. Nerf Buttons was a cheat and Sequencer is its cousin.

That's complete nonsense. NB was never a cheat, of course. NB made clever use of the API Mythic provided. So absolutely nothing against the ToS. On live, NB was neither banned nor sanctioned. Whether the add-on was good for the game or for competitive gameplay is a completely different question. Just because you haven't liked it does not make it a cheat. To call Sequencer a cousin of NB only shows that you have zero clue about both add-ons. Sequencer has far fewer capabilities and is not able to react to certain situations like positioning or specific buffs or debuffs etc., which is intended.

You are confused. If an action occurs that was not directly and immediately caused by the player, then said action is independent of the player. Therefore the action should not occur. If it does occur, that is a cheat.

NB and Sequencer exist(ed) because of bad players that could not and cannot compete in an open field.

[Kaybern]

You are confused. If an action occurs that was not directly and immediately caused by the player, then said action is independent of the player. Therefore the action should not occur. If it does occur, that is a cheat.

NB and Sequencer exist(ed) because of bad players that could not and cannot compete in an open field.

Pressing 1,2,3,4 to do a rotation instead of 1,1,1,1 like a player with sequencer does

Dosn't make you a "good player"

[Orontes]

You are confused. If an action occurs that was not directly and immediately caused by the player, then said action is independent of the player. Therefore the action should not occur. If it does occur, that is a cheat.

NB and Sequencer exist(ed) because of bad players that could not and cannot compete in an open field.

Pressing 1,2,3,4 to do a rotation instead of 1,1,1,1 like a player with sequencer does

Dosn't make you a "good player"

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[kpihuss]

Sequencer should not exist. Nerf Buttons was a cheat and Sequencer is its cousin.

What’s the problem with wanting to play the game in the easiest and most comfortable way possible? I’m referring to the sequencer and NB… Keep in mind that, as of today, the game overall is extremely easy. You no longer need to do ranked to get the ring, you don’t need to do city sieges to gear Sovereign, and you don’t need to do forts to gear Invader. Dungeon lockouts have been reduced to 18 hours, lair respawns to 15 minutes, you get a +30% RR buff for capturing flags (and it stacks when you cap differents BOs…) Even now, with the last patch it is not even be hard to get purple seeds. It makes no sense that the Sequencer is frowned upon or that NB is still banned: the entire game is being simplified to the maximum.

In fact, the game has become so absurdly easy that you don’t even need to know how to play to gear your character: you just run dungeons to “skip” the guards, follow the zerg in RvR spamming AoE without ever setting foot in SCs or cities, and don’t spend War Crests. That way you reach renown rank 78 with enough War Crests to buy BiS directly and fully gear your character in one go—without even needing to know what your character does.

I remember a time when seeing someone with two or three Sovereign pieces was something epic, because you knew they had sweated and bled for those pieces in city sieges.

The game has been simplified a lot over the years to adapt to the server’s population (which, honestly, I’d say averages around 50 years old per player). What I still don’t understand is why, if the game is now sooooooooooooo easy in every sense, the sequencer is still viewed with suspicion or Nerfed Buttons is still banned—especially considering that half the community already has arthritic fingers and a wrecked back.

I still have hope that Nerfed Buttons will come back someday.

DP: Just to be clear, I’m still grateful to the GMs and the team for keeping the game alive all these years. This is meant as constructive feedback, not a jab at the people doing the work.

[tsyuryu]

what the point to play if a addon do the rotation for you really ?

[Orontes]

Sequencer should not exist. Nerf Buttons was a cheat and Sequencer is its cousin.

What’s the problem with wanting to play the game in the easiest and most comfortable way possible? I’m referring to the sequencer and NB…

This isn't a serious response. Easy as a justification is its own refutation.

[Orontes]

what the point to play if a addon do the rotation for you really ?

Exactly right.

[Gunlinger]

The point to play if an addon do the rotation for you?

Ok!
- revert the Chosen/Knight change! Make Auras work as in live again and ban Aura twister addon at the same time. You want to play those 2 classes, then twist your Auras manually as it was intended.

- Leading a warband? No more Autoband addon! Mannage your warband manually.

- Play a healer? block enemy addon click casting.

- easy mode reaction? No more Buffhead! Learn to play the game and check your buffs and debuffs manually and no longer have an addon show you the important buffs/debuffs as highlighted.

- Spoted enemies? Go make your own macros and manually add your position via chat. No more warcommander addon to automatically insert your position and enemy name into automated 1 click call out.

- Global cooldown saver addon? ban it. Check for yourself if the enemy has specific CC immunity. This addon does the same level of Check NB did to prevent you from using CC against targets with immunity.

- Retalert addon? Check your combat log and Choppa/Slayer combat animation manually for indicate their channel!

- Nooverheal addon? block it. If you do not want to overheal, go manage your heals manually

I could go on and on with addons that help you automate all the essential game mechanics that make rvr combat more easy and less bloated with info to manage and react to.
So if you brag about specific ones that you dislike, just because your class does not need or benefits from them, better think twice. The BS reasons you give against those you do not need and dislike, can be brought up against those addons you yourself use and depend on too!

[Orontes]

The point to play if an addon do the rotation for you?

Ok!
- revert the Chosen/Knight change! Make Auras work as in live again and ban Aura twister addon at the same time. You want to play those 2 classes, then twist your Auras manually as it was intended.

- Leading a warband? No more Autoband addon! Mannage your warband manually.

- Play a healer? block enemy addon click casting.

- easy mode reaction? No more Buffhead! Learn to play the game and check your buffs and debuffs manually and no longer have an addon show you the important buffs/debuffs as highlighted.

- Spoted enemies? Go make your own macros and manually add your position via chat. No more warcommander addon to automatically insert your position and enemy name into automated 1 click call out.

- Global cooldown saver addon? ban it. Check for yourself if the enemy has specific CC immunity. This addon does the same level of Check NB did to prevent you from using CC against targets with immunity.

- Retalert addon? Check your combat log and Choppa/Slayer combat animation manually for indicate their channel!

- Nooverheal addon? block it. If you do not want to overheal, go manage your heals manually

I could go on and on with addons that help you automate all the essential game mechanics that make rvr combat more easy and less bloated with info to manage and react to.
So if you brag about specific ones that you dislike, just because your class does not need or benefits from them, better think twice. The BS reasons you give against those you do not need and dislike, can be brought up against those addons you yourself use and depend on too!

Any given X that causes abilities to trigger or occur separate from direct player action can be justifiably removed. Pointing out rampant abuse is not a retort, but a reinforcement of the error. NB and Sequencer are particularly egregious because of their pervasiveness.