I dont wanna be rude but... what?!

[dukamamuka]

Can some1 pls explain what is going on in this game in terms that I am in 15-20 scenarion and loosing them all IN A ROW! Im not kidding. I dont want to say garbage about "devs playing order". I am new and dont know these stuff. but HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE? loosing every freakin damned scenario.

[Spazual]

You're probably getting stomped out by premade scenario groups. Either try to join one in looking for group or create one and start doing the stomping

[dukamamuka]

How a gathered party will solve the problem?
If they are pre-made - that sounds like they play in discord or smth or from one guild. Just to gather a party of the same randoms doesn't seem like any good

[coldhunter]

Can some1 pls explain what is going on in this game

Ok buddy, listing, this game is about RvR and you better play RvR most time, instead of SC's. And yes, most time, like 60%+, you will be stomped on destro. Its not because of "evil devs", just most org.guilds playing on order side and sometimes they "heroes" decide to have some fun stomping pugs on SC's. Things was much worst before devs remake SC's queue system, actually.
So again, better focus on RvR, because there you will always find what to do, even if your side is losing.

[georgehabadasher]

How a gathered party will solve the problem?
If they are pre-made - that sounds like they play in discord or smth or from one guild. Just to gather a party of the same randoms doesn't seem like any good

How horrible, fantastic, incredible it is that this guy should the problem after playing the game for a few days, but vets who've played the game for years still think 'just make a group' is a real solution.

[dukamamuka]

Can some1 pls explain what is going on in this game

Ok buddy, listing, this game is about RvR and you better play RvR most time, instead of SC's. And yes, most time, like 60%+, you will be stomped on destro. Its not because of "evil devs", just most org.guilds playing on order side and sometimes they "heroes" decide to have some fun stomping pugs on SC's. Things was much worst before devs remake SC's queue system, actually.
So again, better focus on RvR, because there you will always find what to do, even if your side is losing.

Thanks! I got the answer, yep. Just thought hwo come. Why then most of these "heroes" chose play order may I ask? Seems strangly odd that from destro side there is no opposition. Yes I figured this game is mostly rvr, but playing sc gives faster exp. But playin 20-30 games, 3-4 days without winning single one is vert very strange. Maybe i play when these "heroes" have prime time.

[lumpi33]

Can some1 pls explain what is going on in this game

Ok buddy, listing, this game is about RvR and you better play RvR most time, instead of SC's. And yes, most time, like 60%+, you will be stomped on destro. Its not because of "evil devs", just most org.guilds playing on order side and sometimes they "heroes" decide to have some fun stomping pugs on SC's. Things was much worst before devs remake SC's queue system, actually.
So again, better focus on RvR, because there you will always find what to do, even if your side is losing.

Thanks! I got the answer, yep. Just thought hwo come. Why then most of these "heroes" chose play order may I ask? Seems strangly odd that from destro side there is no opposition. Yes I figured this game is mostly rvr, but playing sc gives faster exp. But playin 20-30 games, 3-4 days without winning single one is vert very strange. Maybe i play when these "heroes" have prime time.

My dude, it happens on both sides. Really.

Both sides have organized groups and people switching sides all the time. There are lots of players and guilds that have fully equipped characters on both sides. You fight with them and the next moment you fight against them.

When you face such organized group with discord and everything then it is ofc a lot harder to win with a random group. Beside that they are usually well equipped and good players. So if you are rather new to this game then you have all odds against you.

I guess you were a bit unlucky because you can have these organized groups also on your side then it is ez pz.

Go to the killboard and click through the scenarios:
https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com ... ios?tier=4

You will see that it is pretty even.

There is also another nice stats site:
https://maartenson.net/ror_graph.html

In mid tier scenarios it also depends a lot on the level. When the other side is mostly lvl 30-39 and your side has lots of 16-25 then it is very hard to win.

My advice to you: Remember the names of the enemies. When you notice that you get the same people over and over again then it is better to stop queuing and do something else. In this case you are getting the same people because everybody else has already given up against them or it is a low pop time (outside EU prime time where the pop is highest, e.g. NA evening)

[Nameless]

May be the problem is you. Nowadays when scens go with 1-2 healers or 1-2 tanks these limited but important archetypes could being the difference.

Esp on healers is quite possible to carry.
For lower tiers orders got some perks of being more rdps focused which at that more pugish environment is a positive advantage

[Farrul]

So you're new to the game and join Scenarios.

1) When joining SC as solo it will be a hit or miss. Know when to stop/continue que based on the enemy at the time or your team mates.

2) Scenarios are usually decided by the team with the most competent DPS classes that know how to assist each other to score kills.

Support roles like tanks and healers (especially healers) are important but having the GOOD dps players on your side vs the bad ones makes all the difference.

3) As new player you're likely a liability yourself to your team and contribute to the loss, since you haven't learned your class yet nor how to handle yourself in combat or support team mates. I would suggest playing a lot of T1/T3 scenarios and then stick to RvR until you grasp this correctly.

I see many in scenarios complain about their team mates( sometimes justified) but they are likely the problem themselves ( again refer to Point 2).

[nat3s]

Some toxicity above, NO you are NOT the problem, please don't listen to that nonsense and lose faith in the game. Game has premade stomping pugs as its core gameplay loop for scenarios, impossible for a pug to overcome a properly setup premade group, it is NOT a you problem. There has been a ton of discussion about it over time, devs introduced a ranked mode as the main argument from people who like the premade lifestyle is they want to play in a competitive group scenario. However ranked died through lack of participation, turns out premades actually want to stomp pugs and the suggestion of some pure competitive environment was all hollow and elitist mutual backslapping. They just want to stomp pugs, it does feel good tbh, but its not right imo, lacks empathy for new players and harms the game imo.

You have the option to join premades, but if you're new, that will be a struggle unless you have reasonable gear/rr. Joining a guild is 1 option.

It feels pretty rough as a pug / newbro, it is a problem, it does turn new players away. It is what it is. I'd personally prefer joining as a group to be capped at 2 people or remove the option entirely, but that's HUGELY contentious, you'll see people likely jump on this post shortly!!