Give WP/DoK a gap closer.

[gersy]

try snare or flee + AP pot

[Sinisterror]

OP was correct: in any semi-competent environment that allows kiting, once you get staggered, punted, or slowed down during a fight that isn't stationary, it's really hard to reconnect without any form of engage ability (charge/pounce/pull) and dps WP/DoK can be kited for eternity with ease.

If you think dps WP/DoK shouldn't have a charge, why would WE/WH be allowed to have one?

We/Wh definitely shouldn't get charge, like Wp/Dok definitely shouldn't get shields.

[M0rw47h]

try snare or flee + AP pot

I think after so many years spent in RoR, you should already know morales are quite useful in this game...

OP was correct: in any semi-competent environment that allows kiting, once you get staggered, punted, or slowed down during a fight that isn't stationary, it's really hard to reconnect without any form of engage ability (charge/pounce/pull) and dps WP/DoK can be kited for eternity with ease.

If you think dps WP/DoK shouldn't have a charge, why would WE/WH be allowed to have one?

We/Wh definitely shouldn't get charge, like Wp/Dok definitely shouldn't get shields.

I agree, thats main reason why I said charge compotent should be tied to Great Weapon / Dual Wield (so not working with a shield).

[Cullenn]

try snare or flee + AP pot

I think after so many years spent in RoR, you should already know morales are quite useful in this game...

OP was correct: in any semi-competent environment that allows kiting, once you get staggered, punted, or slowed down during a fight that isn't stationary, it's really hard to reconnect without any form of engage ability (charge/pounce/pull) and dps WP/DoK can be kited for eternity with ease.

If you think dps WP/DoK shouldn't have a charge, why would WE/WH be allowed to have one?

We/Wh definitely shouldn't get charge, like Wp/Dok definitely shouldn't get shields.

I agree, thats main reason why I said charge compotent should be tied to Great Weapon / Dual Wield (so not working with a shield).

I agree, if shield wp has charge then tanks would also request something similar lol, i'd like to point that there is the skill called unstoppable wrath, has 1 min cooldown, and it makes you immune to snares and roots but not knockdowns, it is usable only for great weapon, so a speed buff for this could be great.

[Cullenn]

Over the past few weeks, every single thread generated on this topic has been from you. People tend to give you explanations on why DPS WP is just fine without a gap closer, or that it would need to lose other tools at its disposal in order to function this way. But it seems like what you do is you nod, and then post another thread. This is probably like one of those youtube challenges "Day X of posting a thread about WP/DoK needing a gap closer until they get one".

If so, go ahead, it's entertaining, but at this point there is literally no new information you can be presented with, and so frankly, the next steps is your threads will be taken less seriously, then after that, you personally, as a member of the community, will be taken less seriously. Up to you.

Yeah, you are correct, i apologize for repeating the same posts, i usually do them when i feel rage spikes of just trying to kill a rdps and being slow and killed and laughed at, sorry for that and you are right, i will try to avoid making posts like this, thank you.

Wow. Honesty and admitting you were wrong is pretty rare take here : D Gongratz

Thank you for your kind words, however i will answer ppl in this post since it is alive for now, and i wish to make my point, however another post like this only after a long time.

[Cullenn]

then why 2h tank dont get a charge then ? they have same kiting problem as wp/dok

Tanks have knockdown, insane defense and applies alot of debuffs + a really good punt, i think all tanks have punts so a charge on them would be a little too much, especially on chosen.

[Cullenn]

then why 2h tank dont get a charge then ? they have same kiting problem as wp/dok

They don't have WP/DoK problems, as by equipping 2h weapons you don't change your purpose, you're still a tank. If you equip 2h hammer as WP for example, your healing is miserable compared to both hammer+book and hammer+shield variant as your purpose changes to DPS.

The skill i suggest for them to change, unstoppable wrath, gives you immunity to roots and snares, has 1 min cooldown, and need righteous fury to use, do you think would be fair for wp to have a speed buff? 10 seconds duration, not immune to knockdown. I don't know the DPS classes charge cooldown/duration/effects other than speed.

[Cullenn]

DOC HAVE tough debuff wp dont !!

WP does have but it requires a tactic from skill tree, my problem is that both DOK/WP don't have a sov dps set since the sov is for shield build, and shield is dead, also WP doesn't have the same slow as DOK has on damage prayer/covenant, for me damage is fine, all i wish for is a gap closer against rdps since even shaman is a ranged dps healer and has speed buff.

[Cullenn]

As long as this DoK/WP has complete 0% healing - sure, why not. And, i guess, since you want to be dps - no res and cleanse.

Heal as 2h/dps is already bad other than lifetap channeling skill which can be easily broken, so one more reason for charge or another gap closer to be needed.

[M0rw47h]

then why 2h tank dont get a charge then ? they have same kiting problem as wp/dok

They don't have WP/DoK problems, as by equipping 2h weapons you don't change your purpose, you're still a tank. If you equip 2h hammer as WP for example, your healing is miserable compared to both hammer+book and hammer+shield variant as your purpose changes to DPS.

The skill i suggest for them to change, unstoppable wrath, gives you immunity to roots and snares, has 1 min cooldown, and need righteous fury to use, do you think would be fair for wp to have a speed buff? 10 seconds duration, not immune to knockdown. I don't know the DPS classes charge cooldown/duration/effects other than speed.

Indeed. Charge has 30s CD with 7s duration (canceled on action).